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    Sounds very interesting!
    For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us....that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now.
    Romans 8:18,21-22

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    Mac - you should get in touch with Joe Sr and see about some kind of joint production and marketing/sales deal. You're doing a lot of product development for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacEntyre View Post
    InsulTubes are simply long, non-tapered, pleats that make a 3/8" tube and serve the purpose of keeping the layers of IX from touching.
    What causes us to belive that this is necessary or helps? The text on the i.d.i.gear web site seems to have been created by somebody who knows how to milk every ounce of marketing value out of anything that even thinks it might be a "feature", but there's no mention of using anything between the layers. I'm sure there's a post somewhere explaining this, but I just can't remember it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boris Losdindawoods View Post
    What causes us to belive that this is necessary or helps?
    ...over a year of Hammock Forums member testing, that's all!

    Insultex needs a tiny air gap between itself and the thing it is insulating, whether it is one layer or more.
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    Somebody tested a multi-layer with air gaps vs a stacked multi-layer? That's what I missed. I really want to hack open a piece of arctic armor and see what's in there. If it makes a difference, then they obviously have something in there and I'd love to know what it is. If they didn't, then every crease or fold in the fabric would become a cold spot. I just don't have $200 worth of curiosity.

    What if the mysterious thing between the layers is actually the 2nd layer of IX? If what you need is an "air gap" between the layers, then the 2nd layer of IX becomes the air gap which makes the 3rd layer work. That would explain why they sell 1 layer stuff and 3 layer stuff but nothing with 2 layers.

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    The Arctic Armour is over sized... the bulk allows the IX to maintain air gaps.

    It works similar to the Garlington Insulator.

    Yes, someone has already asked for my scraps!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boris Losdindawoods View Post
    ...............
    What if the mysterious thing between the layers is actually the 2nd layer of IX? If what you need is an "air gap" between the layers, then the 2nd layer of IX becomes the air gap which makes the 3rd layer work. That would explain why they sell 1 layer stuff and 3 layer stuff but nothing with 2 layers.
    Actually, they sell one and two layers of Insultex under the "hunting" section.

    http://idigear.com/hunting.php
    For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us....that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now.
    Romans 8:18,21-22

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    Ha! Beat me to it. I just noticed the NBU Parka which is their only 2-layer product. This stuff is so weird.

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    IXUQ with InsulTubes

    Here are a couple of pictures of an IXUQ with InsulTubes. I cut a 2'x3' piece of IX, made three pleats about 1/2", hemmed it, then installed it in the bottom of the fitted IXUQ. The InsulTubes tend to lay down, but they provide a little more than twice the thickness of the IX in loft.

    Thing1 reports that this is the warmest IXUQ she has ever had under her hammock!

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    Its incredible how new materials are changing things.

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