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    Quote Originally Posted by TOB9595 View Post
    Any developments on being able to post the mcdonald brummel TiredFeet?
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    The Complete Rigger's Apprentice: Tools and Techniques for Modern and Traditional Rigging
    Nope. Since links were posted to 2 videos, I haven't pursued the matter. Don't know if my request was just lost by Brion or, more probably, the spam filter shoved it into the spam folder and it got deleted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentorpheus View Post
    This Video is a little long (two or three parts) but actually shows a very clear step by step version of what you're talking about, I believe. I had found this on the Colligo Marine website while looking for info about soft shackles, and tossed it in my bookmarks (they are actually embedded on the Colligo Marine site as sidebar tutorials) but sorta forgot about it. When I first started splicing (I say that like it wasn't just a month ago) I tried one, but it didn't look as nice as the brummel using both ends pulled through. Then again, I think it was the second splice I ever tried, so that may have had something to do with it.
    When I click that link, I get "this video has been removed by the user"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBob58 View Post
    When I click that link, I get "this video has been removed by the user"?
    Quote Originally Posted by silentorpheus View Post
    (they are actually embedded on the Colligo Marine site as sidebar tutorials)
    They're still working on Colligo Marines website. Right side halfway down "how to videos" Looks interesting. http://www.colligomarine.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoShoes View Post
    They're still working on Colligo Marines website. Right side halfway down "how to videos" Looks interesting. http://www.colligomarine.com/
    Yes - the video titled "Modified Brummel Splice, Part 1" shows how to do the McDonald single end Brummel splice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoShoes View Post
    They're still working on Colligo Marines website. Right side halfway down "how to videos" Looks interesting. http://www.colligomarine.com/
    Quote Originally Posted by TiredFeet View Post
    Yes - the video titled "Modified Brummel Splice, Part 1" shows how to do the McDonald single end Brummel splice.
    That works great videos!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBob58 View Post
    That works great videos!
    Yes, they are...well worth watching, even if you never anticipate using the McDonald. I will be watching the rest of the Colligo Marine vids, just because they are so well done and informative.
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    Hah! I just made one of these suckers w/1.75mm Lash It...not something I want to do often, but it can be done.
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    Another Method...

    Just found this link today:

    http://www.neropes.com/SPL_12Strand_...ceBrummel.aspx

    It creates a single-ended locked Brummel, much as the McDonald. The difference, per the illustrations, is NOT having to push a full-size eye loop through the little 'football' opening.

    I haven't tried it yet (will this evening), but I expect it to work better in smaller cord like Lash- / Zing-it.

    Good luck!

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    Yep, that's the same link as in the first post.

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    The trick to using the NE Ropes method is to use a small piece of whipping twine to pull the line back though itself. It's a little finnicky, but nothing that can't be done.

    If you're making a sling with an eye on each end...
    Another method that works great in 7/64" and 1/8" amsteel as well as vectran lines is to push the eye on the other end of the line through just as you would the tail. It hurts nothing to enlarge the opening a little and when splicing larger line, drastically opening the line is required.

    but my question is WHY??

    Locked Brummels are not required. You can use a straight bury or a regular brummel, both of which are stronger. Locked Brummels are WEAKER than the other splicing methods. Some may disagree on how much weaker, but no one with any experience will say they are as strong or stronger.

    The reason for locking the brummel is to prevent the splice from working loose under low load conditions. The same thing can be done with a little whipping twine, sewing thread, or dental floss. Either stitch the bury for a couple passes or whip the beginning of the bury. Both methods keep the splice from working loose under low load.

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