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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustardman View Post
    The main reason I didn't splice a fixed eye is that it requires a longer bury, meaning the whoopie sling bury will be pushed further from the hammock, and the minimum distance between trees is larger. I buried the tail from the overhand purely for aesthetic reasons, and it was only two inches of tail at the most.
    Okay, thanks. That satisfies my curiosity and I knew you had very good reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by opie View Post
    Mustard... Ive been using rope thimbles at the webbing/sling connection end. I also flip the sling around and use the fixed eye in the webbing loop so I can use the rope thimble.

    Its been relatively popular. I had some aprehension about flipping the sling around, but so far no complaints.
    Opie -where did you get the ss thimbles. Lowes or Home Depot by any chance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustardman View Post
    The main reason I didn't splice a fixed eye is that it requires a longer bury, meaning the whoopie sling bury will be pushed further from the hammock, and the minimum distance between trees is larger. I buried the tail from the overhand purely for aesthetic reasons, and it was only two inches of tail at the most.
    I understand the length concerns but Amsteel is very slippery and knots tend to unwind so keep an eye on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knotty View Post
    I understand the length concerns but Amsteel is very slippery and knots tend to unwind so keep an eye on it.
    I've been hanging off a loop tied with an overhand in a bight ever since I bought my blackbird, and it hasn't slipped at all. I'm not worried about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TiredFeet View Post
    Opie -where did you get the ss thimbles. Lowes or Home Depot by any chance?
    No... Ive scored some off Ebay... From this seller

    http://cgi.ebay.com/10-Stainless-Ste...item2eaab7c92f

    I prefer the Sea Dog brand

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Sea-Dog-S-S-Heav...item3a5a45591a

    You can also grab the Sea Dog brand from Redden, or I found some at a good price here...

    http://www.greenboatstuff.com/seadogststhe1.html

    I think the ones HD and Lowes sell are galv. not SS.
    I am not a gram weenie. , But Im starting to see the merits!!!

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    Thanks - I decided to try ebay - 10 for $7.50 until I'm sure we'll be using them. Maybe no, maybe yes.

    Until I have the in hand and actually fit them to the huggers and whoopie, not sure. Don't want hardware, but still concerned about that crazy small Dynaglide and cutting through anything else.

    Quote Originally Posted by opie View Post
    No... Ive scored some off Ebay... From this seller

    http://cgi.ebay.com/10-Stainless-Ste...item2eaab7c92f

    I prefer the Sea Dog brand

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Sea-Dog-S-S-Heav...item3a5a45591a

    You can also grab the Sea Dog brand from Redden, or I found some at a good price here...

    http://www.greenboatstuff.com/seadogststhe1.html

    I think the ones HD and Lowes sell are galv. not SS.

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    As an update on the knot issue, I checked the cord suspension that came with my Blackbird - it's got an overhand on a bight with about an inch of tail hanging out of the end, and has never slipped. I use it all the time on my DIY balcony hammock. So I wouldn't worry about an overhand on a bight on this thickness of Amsteel slipping.


    I could have also done the loop with a locked brummel, which would take a bit less line, and be cleaner than an overhand on a bight. Since the locked brummel doesn't require a long bury, it would fix the issue I have with a traditionally spliced fixed eye. If I were using thinner Amsteel, I would probably have done the locked brummel to protect the strength of the cord, but for this thick stuff it doesn't really matter, and the overhand on a bight is faster to tie, so I used that. Purely a matter of personal preference, and if anyone else wants to make something similar, use whichever you're more comfortable with.
    Last edited by Mustardman; 06-14-2010 at 10:44.

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    Very neatly done. Perhaps more neatly than necessary. I think the tubing is not really necessary. But it's classy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WV View Post
    Very neatly done. Perhaps more neatly than necessary. I think the tubing is not really necessary. But it's classy.
    Good thing I didn't show the backsplice behind the stopper knot to keep the adjustable tail of the whoopie sling from pulling through


    I don't think of the tubing (or other options like rope thimbles) as strictly necessary, but I do think they will extend the lifetime of the tree huggers. I've seen enough examples of ropes sawing through webbing in my climbing career that I am pretty paranoid about soft-on-soft connections, and always like to have something between them to eliminate the kind of rubbing that can wear them out.

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    Understood. I haven't run into ropes sawing through webbing - probably because with HF, novelty is a more potent agent of change than friction.

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