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    Quote Originally Posted by Captn View Post
    I'm 250 and have no problem ....

    The beauty of the physics behind the toggle is that, when used properly, the force is transferred from the whoopie, strap, rope, etc. To the tree hugger. The toggle doesn't carry load per se, at least not much of a load as compared to the tension in the suspension lines.

    Even so, when used as a toggle the mini biner is being loaded in shear .. That is to say that the forces applied to the toggle would try to shear it in two, not pull it in two. The mini biner would have to bend to fail. In this case, the mini biner is a heck of a lot stronger loaded in shear than in tension.
    Ah, good to know! Any specific one you recommend? The micro carabiners on mountainfitter and arrowhead equipment specifically say that they are not for hammock suspensions...

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    They aren't for suspension per se'. A little stick would work even though it would appear like it would break. As said before it is a shear type force that it has to hold. An arrow shaft doesn't look strong either but it works fine. Make sure that the back of the mini biner,the solid part is what becomes the toggle, not the gate side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xeren View Post
    Ah, good to know! Any specific one you recommend? The micro carabiners on mountainfitter and arrowhead equipment specifically say that they are not for hammock suspensions...
    I'm using crap ones from chinamart.
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    I got bored over the weekend and made a walnut set.
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    ^My vote for best looking toggles on HF just went to you. Nice work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmcttr View Post
    I got bored over the weekend and made a walnut set.
    They double as deadly ninja throwing toggles!
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