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    Hang low.....

    I recently made a change to HH. I changed the suspension system to webing and cinch buckles (thanks Angrysparrow for all the help). I LOVE how fast this allows me to set up, but it really stretches out the webbing and I start to really hang low. Now, I am a big guy but I got webbing rated at 3500 pounds.

    I have a theory that I want to bounce off you guys. I put my hammock between two trees about 15 feet apart. This is much wider then I have ever done before because I really wanted to see how much I could span. I wonder if this large distance increased the sag? Would it be more normal if I reduced that distance to my more normal 9 foot?

    Really look forward to your thoughts on what I did wrong.

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    Is your webbing nylon, polypro, or polyester? I know that nylon has a lot of stretch to it, but would be quite surprised to hear of polyester stretching nearly that amount.

    How many hangs do you have in your HH? Are you sure that the sag you're getting isn't the initial stretch from the hammock body itself? It does take a few hangs to get the hammock body of a HH 'broken in'.

    I have used trees up to 20' apart before, with only minimal issues. YMMV
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    As allways you seem to step up to help. Thanks, I have hung in this a few times only.

    The webbing is nylon, I ordered it from OnRope1 because it helped me get to the minimum order level. I guess you saying that is my issue mate?

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    Although I don't have the experience of some of the folks here I would consider 15' to be pretty close together... I have hung (not an HH) between trees up to 25' apart without any significant difficulty. I do have to attach somewhat higher and put a bit more pre-tension on it before I get in.

    Finally how high are you putting things before you get in? This makes a difference as you get farther apart.

    Nylon will stretch more, especially as it gets damp/wet.

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    Yeah, likely it is a combination of nylon webbing and initial stretch. The initial stretch will go away, but the nylon webbing will always stretch, more so on long distances.
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    Go with polyester webbing. Much less stretch than nylon and polypro in my experience.
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    I think that the more webbing has between trees does increase sag, but probably not much more than a couple inches.

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    My theory is that perhaps you're putting more strap into play that hasn't been stretched yet.


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    When I hang this I am putting the hammock at eye level, and it sags to the ground.

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    The amount of stretch is related directly to how long the lines or webbing is from the tree to the hammock. (You can see this by stretching shock cord, the longer the piece the easier it is to stretch and the farther it will stretch.) Everything behaves elastically to some extent.. The difference is in how far it stretches and how much force it takes to stretch it. Nylon webbing is like really stiff elastic bands...

    Also a longer distance means more vertical drop for a given suspension hang angle. Its linear and proprotional. That is, a given suspension hang angle will drop twice as far if the trees are 30' apart as compared to trees 15' apart... so 9' to 15' is a change of 1.67 times so the vertical drop would be the same 1.67 times for a given angle on the suspension lines.

    Lorethian, when you say eye height I'm assuming you mean the tree ties are at eye height, and not the hammock body. I can't see how it would be possible to get into a hammock body that was at eye height at least without a ladder or something...

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