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    Michigan Underquilt?

    Now that it is the hottest part of the year, I'm getting ready to buy an underquilt. I want one to meet most of my needs, and so I can't decide between a winter or three-season Crowsnest.

    I live in southeast Michigan, and would like to hit the AT again, and the SHT this fall. Autumn and Spring will be when I hike the most, but those seasons still get snow. I also get cold very easily.

    What should I do? Would the winter UQ be too much insulation?

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    Can't go wrong with either of Adam's productsbutmy guess is it'd depend on you. Are you a cold sleeper or a warm one?

    I'm good with a 3 Season but would go with the winter if I camped in say Michigan in the winters.

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    You can get a winter one and carry the extra weight/bulk in the summer.

    Or you can get a summer one and supplement with a pad in the winter.

    Today, I'd probably go with the second one. Tomorrow, I might change my mind.
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    I get cold easily, so does that make me a cold sleeper? I'm assuming that a Michigan autumn is kinda like winter everywhere else, and the extra insulation would be needed.

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    I can use my Winter Yeti comfortably up to 70* or higher, so I would go with the winter version, though Stormcrow or others may tell you otherwise. I use little to no top insulation when it's that warm and I have a winter UQ, but it takes me to a very wide range of temperatures.

    You could always email him and ask which he things would be better for you based on the situation.
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    Or...you can get a 3 season crowsnest and have adam overstuff it with an extra oz of down...
    It puts the Underquilt on it's hammock ... It does this whenever it gets cold

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trooper View Post
    Now that it is the hottest part of the year, I'm getting ready to buy an underquilt. I want one to meet most of my needs, and so I can't decide between a winter or three-season Crowsnest.

    I live in southeast Michigan, and would like to hit the AT again, and the SHT this fall. Autumn and Spring will be when I hike the most, but those seasons still get snow. I also get cold very easily.

    What should I do? Would the winter UQ be too much insulation?
    Michigan is a tempermental state when it comes to the weather. Trying to find one set up that will take you even through the summer is hard to do. For me the humidity is a major concern and I have gone synthetic on my UQ (AHE-KAQ Lost River). I have a week long trip from Pictured Rocks to Thaquemenon Falls State Park comming up at the end of August and my last concern is figuring out what type of top insulation am I going to take. I can go from a Micro Fleece Sleeping Bag Liner to a 40* Down to a 20* Down to a -20* Bag, and actually be justified in haveing a reason for bringing each.

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    lets face it...
    you'll eventually want the trio: 3-season, summer, & winter.

    i know we might want to make just ONE purchase and use
    that ONE item in a variety of situations, but with the
    access we have to awesome cottage gear designers, &
    a twisted sense of gear-NEUROSIS, the ONE-item dream
    of a 4-season quilt is merely that....a DREAM. our designers
    make season / temp specific quilts for a reason, and as a
    hanger, its great to be able to load the pack with trip-specific gear.

    with that exhausted, my thoughts are to start with a 3-season quilt - maybe
    even one with a removable liner. i've found that i can use my "3-season,
    overstuffed yeti deluxe with liner" in the hottest ohio overnight temps. with
    minimal top insulation and be just fine. i also expect it to perform "WELL-ENOUGH"
    through this winter. _( though i plan to get stormcrow's winter incubator so i can
    hang in colder weather next year ). & i'll probably throw down on the summer
    edition of a: tewa? ahe? warbonnet custom? mac ix? crowsnest?

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    I do a lot of canoe camping in northern Michigan and the UP. FWIW, I do believe it is easier to cool down when overly compensated for warmth than to get warm when over estimating performance of insulation. I get by with an UQ of two layers of IX and a TQ of the same stuff down to about 40-45 degrees. Great for summer camping in Michigan. Spring and Fall, I use all 4 layers of IX under me and a down sleeping bag as a TQ. Pads can help underneath, however, since I went to an UQ, I don't like pads. I don't like the way the hammock lays.

    So, error on the side of being overly warm, Michigan can be fickle. Last year we paddled the Manistee on the second weekend of October and had snow accumulations. Another year I paddled the last weekend of October with no shirt and shorts and sandals. Gotta love that.
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