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    I did a quick search and found this...

    http://www.scuba.com/scuba-gear-247/...-Silicone.html

    Don't know how well it would work, but might be worth a try.

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    I believe that stuff is meant to stay liquid and act as a lube. You need to use a silicone product that will cure.
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    does any one who has done this in the past have any long term observations to add.still working,will do it again,not worth it,if i do it again i will do it this way,ect.

    i recently did a tarp.i mixed 5 to 1 mineral spirits by volume to my silicone.i used the dunking in a bucket technique.i ended up doing it twice as i think the first time i did not coat completly.i was getting some misting in heavy rain.make sure you pull it out and unfold it and dunk it back in a couple times for more even coating.i also had to do the seams with a heavyer mix.
    the second time i did it i found it much easier to mix it ahead of time in a 64 oz juice jug(allmost perfect size for a 5 to 1 mix with a whole tube of silicone.).like so.put some medal bits like washers,ball bearings,or nuts in jug.add about 1/3 silicone.fill jug 1/2 way with mineral spirits.cap tightly.shake vigorously.the medal bits act like bearings in a spray paint can to stir the mix.keep adding silicone and shaking untill it is mostly disolved.then fill jug to top with mineral spirits.leave as little air as possible in jug,you can squeeze the jug to get rid of any air,then cap tightly.i believe if you leave an air pocket in jug some of silicone will harden.i left mine in the jug for 4 days before i used it.the silicone was completly dissolved.pour any leftover into a smaller jug(pop bottle maybe)making sure to squeeze out any air. pic of my mix

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    Quote Originally Posted by sclittlefield View Post
    This is partly true. There is a more recent move in Silnylon manufacturing that is a "proprietary" blend of silicone and "other" (likely PU). It works very well. The Treebark Brown material I use is a Cordura fabric with this type of impregnation.

    That said - most Silnylon manufacturing is striaght silicone.

    There is also a third kind that's gotten a lot of attention, usually called "Ultra-Sil" (different from Ultrasil, which is pure silicone). Ultra-Sil is sil coated on one side, and PU coated on the other side (so they can tape the seams). Sea-to-Summit is making stuff sacks with it, as well as some other products. It is not, however (as far as I've been able to find - still looking), something that you can just buy from a distributor. It's made special for the "big box" gear makers. I'm all ears if anyone finds a source for the raw fabric!
    These guys call theirs "Ultra-Sil

    http://www.rockywoods.com/Fabrics-Ha...p-Nylon-Fabric

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    OK got a real off the wall question here would the diy-sil process work on silk as opposed to working with nylon

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGB View Post
    OK got a real off the wall question here would the diy-sil process work on silk as opposed to working with nylon
    I think it would, provided the silk can hold up to the mineral spirits. Soak, squeeze and then allow to dry a small section of silk in the spirits to test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CGB View Post
    OK got a real off the wall question here would the diy-sil process work on silk as opposed to working with nylon
    Silk does not have the same strength to weight ratios as NYLON. And silk can be alot more expensive.
    No ripstop grid = RIIIPPP!
    Not as uv resistant.

    Yes, dipping silk would probably work..but why silk?

    Although a silky, waterproof poncho sounds pretty cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gargoyle View Post
    Yes, dipping silk would probably work..but why silk?

    Although a silky, waterproof poncho sounds pretty cool.
    i just read the entire thread and the thought popped into my head the strength to weight ration would have been my next question. thanks for the reply

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    has anyone tried the spray silicone? It says it is a lube, but I have some left over, so I may see if it will dry. Using a spray can seems much easier than mixing and dipping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladybird View Post
    has anyone tried the spray silicone? It says it is a lube, but I have some left over, so I may see if it will dry. Using a spray can seems much easier than mixing and dipping.
    Silicone lube will remain wet. It's a lube and as such is not designed to cure.
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