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    I just had breakfast with a friend who sells chemicals, including various silicone based products. His company anticipates that one day silicones will be declared a risk because of bioaccumulation. That perspective would say that those of us carrying into the woods on our tarps, where it sloughs off and goes into the environment, will be polluting! He says there is no alternative to silicone.

    He told me of one application that I did not know about... GasX! It's straight PDMS!
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    Wait, the anti-fart stuff is silicon! LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lonely Raven View Post
    Wait, the anti-fart stuff is silicon! LOL
    My friend insists on calling it silicone, not silicon... the former is an organic molecule, and latter is an element.
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    Just to add my experience to those of others, I mixed 100% silicone in a big tube from our local home center with denatured alcohol. The alcohol didn't melt it. So I used gasoline, which I had been trying to avoid--it worked well, giving me a snot-like mixture that I was able to brush on the tarp seams easily. It's out there drying now--and after that I'll flip it and hit the ridgeline on the inner side with another layer. I haven't read this whole thread, but I gather that mineral spirits is better than gasoline as it's less malodorous. Anyway, I was skeptical, and I had great results.
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    Glad it's working for you but using gasoline is way too dangerous. Mineral spirits is the way to go.
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    Oh? I usually just light up a cigarette then mix it up in a punchbowl....

    Gas is dangerous. I got myself a five dollar can of mineral spirits. Life's too short to go out that way. And to smell like gas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kc7fys View Post
    Oh? I usually just light up a cigarette then mix it up in a punchbowl....

    Gas is dangerous. I got myself a five dollar can of mineral spirits. Life's too short to go out that way. And to smell like gas.
    Live long and prosper! I am glad you survived. Definitely dangerous.
    I have a bunch of camo nylon partially converted to a rectangular tarp and then need to treat. Got the material from Scott Littlefield. Very pleased with it. Mineral spirits and 5 to 1 ratio to the silicone. I assume that ratio should be by volume.

    I also have a bunch of tents (sigh, yes it is true) primarily Eureka Timberline 4, and have treated them regularly with aersol spray. Could this mixture go into a compression pump type sprayer and be applied? Most of my clients use tents, though some have considered hanging.

    Forgive me if I missed these things here somewhere. Been a while since I have backtracked through this thread.
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    If memory serves me right it's 5:1 by weight.
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    The specific gravity of each is close enough that a ratio by either weight or volume will work. Try 4:1 and then add the last bit of solvent slowly, until you get the emulsion consistency that you want for ease of application.
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