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    Do want. Do you have any diagrams or directions?
    oldgringo's reply to my worrying about owning extra hammocks:

    How many pairs of underwear do you own? Do you refer to them as "extras", simply because you're not wearing all of them as we speak?

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    There is a top perimeter rope that is visible.

    I assume that there is also a bottom perimeter rope. True?

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    Very nice looking idea! For the tent, a yurt-inspired structure might work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pedro View Post
    ...a yurt-inspired structure might work.
    Not necessary. WV wants to put a smaller, lighter Tensegrity structure on top. All would then be covered in fabric.

    Diagrams... as a hammock stand, this is still under development. There are top and bottom perimeter tendons, and a tendon on each strut. Some math is required in order to insure that there are only compressive forces on the struts.

    It is based on these structures: (the second one shows the component that one backpacker would carry)
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    Quote Originally Posted by WV View Post
    Actually, Otter, all the tendons are amsteel, and they need to be that strong.
    David I hate to break it to you the what you quoted me as saying had nothing to do with your hammock stand. I was commenting on the stand that the thread was started for. I did however like your explanation. This is an interesting stand as well. I could easily see that the lines at the top were under tension with this design. I found it interesting that the line on the left going down to the lower part of the stand went slack. Would there be a benefit to being able to tighten this line? Might help with the rigidity without having to tighten the top line as much. Might not.
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    Pete, once it is all tightened up, it is supposed to be rigid. Of course, the tendons have to be the right lengths, and you need a winch on the last tendon.

    Dave, didn't you say you were going to do a video on how to erect the thing?
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    The gram weenies are not going to like this thread. Toting ten foot poles and a winch into the woods. How many grams is that winch? (sorry that just stuck me as funny, im probably the only one)
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    Quote Originally Posted by otter46544 View Post
    The gram weenies are not going to like this thread. Toting ten foot poles and a winch into the woods.
    Why would one do that? In the woods, I hang from trees!

    Quote Originally Posted by otter46544 View Post
    How many grams is that winch?
    A Spanish windlass weighs about a half ounce, unless you use something that you already have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacEntyre View Post
    Why would one do that? In the woods, I hang from trees!
    To get to the pond in the clearing of course. To camp above the tree line. To camp where no hammock has camped before. Sorry got off on a Star Trek tangent there. You get the idea. Why else would you refer to having each person in a group carry a leg of the contraption as well as a hunk of the tarp? Was I missing something there? If you are not carrying it some distance through the woods then there is no need to have each person carry it. You could just take it off the roof rack and set it up. No?
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    Be patient, Pete... no one knows how light we will be able to make this thing.

    MedicineMan carries 12' of carbon fiber poles one inch in diameter for hiking sticks. That would certainly do. Perhaps less expensive aluminum struts for car or desert camping, carbon fiber struts for alpine climbing, and bamboo struts for the beach!
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