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  1. #21
    Senior Member SGT Rock's Avatar
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    Looks great. Brian does wonderful work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WV View Post
    It sounds like you're presuming that a taped seam is a potential weak point in the tarp's construction.
    No, I do realize that it's stronger (I follow all the cuben discussion here, even if I haven't commented).

    From my experience it takes more tension on the ends of the tarp to get it taut than if I use a ridgeline underneath it. And I don't see any benefit to having more tension on that seam, even if it is stronger than the rest of the fabric.

    But that's just my take on it. I'm not an expert regarding the fabric or anything of the sort.
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    How loud is it?

    I have zero experience with anything other then coated rip-stop, but I have heard stories that spinn is loud.

    I will be buying a new tarp (soon'ish), and would pay anything for a 'bulletproof' setup, I care more about durability then weight. Rumour has it that cuban is very tough so that fits the bill, and has the bonus of being light.

    The only thing I want to hear is the wildlife. I only want to pay for something once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rug View Post
    How loud is it?
    Cuben isn't loud at all. Think saran wrap, only thicker with fibers in it.

    My Spinn tarp isn't loud either when it's stretched taut. It's only when you're unpacking it from the stuff bag that it has a crinkling sound, but even that fades as it breaks in. I don't consider it any issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rug View Post
    I will be buying a new tarp (soon'ish), and would pay anything for a 'bulletproof' setup
    If you don't care about weight, then you're better off saving your pennies and going with Silnylon. Both cuben and spinn are great, but they don't offer more durability than Sil. And you have a lot more choices for color, style, and availability.

    Cuben is nice indeed. But it really shines most for weight savings.
    I think that when the lies are all told and forgot the truth will be there yet. It dont move about from place to place and it dont change from time to time. You cant corrupt it any more than you can salt salt. - Cormac McCarthy

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    Senior Member Rug's Avatar
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    Thanks!

    Now, what else can I spend the money I saved on cuben? =)

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    Makes the 10.2 ounce Spinn OES Deluxe I just bought this spring seem diabolically heavy.

    Now the polite thing would have been to hold off telling me this until I got at least ONE full backpacking season on the Spinn tarp. Oh, BTW, great review.
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    Very sweet tarp's! Love the weight too! Wonder if he will try a different style of tarp like cat cut rectangle with ends that close in like door's since the weight won't be a factor when he decides to make them available? Or something along those line's

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    Senior Member angrysparrow's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cranky Bear View Post
    Very sweet tarp's! Love the weight too! Wonder if he will try a different style of tarp like cat cut rectangle with ends that close in like door's since the weight won't be a factor when he decides to make them available? Or something along those line's
    Perhaps, but I would be leery of it. Tarp doors really need some stretch to them to pitch with any real tautness. If they don't have it, you inevitably wind up with some 'flap' noise, no matter... Brandon realized the same thing, and it's why his WB doors are only available in Sil.

    I tested a couple of winter-tarp prototypes for Brian made from Spinn. The spinn doors were always noisy.
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    Just weighed my tarp.

    Tarp + 4 dynaglide tie-outs (approx. 7' each) = 5.4oz

    Add in 1 dynaglide ridgeline with 2 dynaglide prussicks - did not weigh or measure
    1 niteize figure 9= .1oz (optional, still working that out)
    1 small silnylon stuff-sack= .4oz (optional?)

    and the weight skyrockets on my scale all the way up to 6.7oz total package weight not including stakes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NCPatrick View Post
    Just weighed my tarp.

    Tarp + 4 dynaglide tie-outs (approx. 7' each) = 5.4oz

    Add in 1 dynaglide ridgeline with 2 dynaglide prussicks - did not weigh or measure
    1 niteize figure 9= .1oz (optional, still working that out)
    1 small silnylon stuff-sack= .4oz (optional?)

    and the weight skyrockets on my scale all the way up to 6.7oz total package weight not including stakes.
    Yeah that's the figures I was figuring the total set up would be for me:

    4.7oz for the tarp
    1.3oz for Opies full length ridgeline
    0.3oz for 1.25mm Spectra Line guylines (6 feet each end X 4)
    0.5oz cuben sack (guesstimate)

    6.8oz total. That cuts 6.5oz off my current Deluxe Spinn set up. I'm in just name that price. That puts me below the 10lbs base weight mark.
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