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    How often is a bug net really necessary? They seem to be the heaviest part of the set up. I usually camp in the southern Apps. My tents had bug nets and my HH has one but I've tarped a few times w/o and was fine after using bug spray.

    I haven't used Permethrin, but if clothes and hammock are treated and you're using a max DEET spray, wouldn't you be OK? I heard that black flies are devils with wings but I've never had to deal with them.
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    Different people have different tolerances...if you're comfortable sleeping outside w/o a bug net, you're a bigger man than I!

    I don't use bug nets in the winter, and I very rarely used one in the Monterey/Big Sur area year-round...but I don't think I'd camp in SC without a bug net except when it's cold.
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    We do have our share of bugs, especially on the coast. When the sand gnats are out, you'll see people run one hand down one arm, switch hands, repeat and then fan a hand in front of their face. It's a semi-unconsious attempt to keep them at bay. We call it the "Low Country Wave".

    Get up in the North Carolina mountains and biting bugs (except red bugs) just aren't that bad.
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    I'm still testing & tweaking, but last week I sent out a SGT Rock style bug net that weighed 1.82oz. (including the stuff sack). I'll be posting full updates as soon as I get them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PapaSmurf View Post
    I'm still testing & tweaking, but last week I sent out a SGT Rock style bug net that weighed 1.82oz. (including the stuff sack). I'll be posting full updates as soon as I get them.
    This sounds very interesting !
    1.82oz is very light and it makes me very curious.
    I just ordered the WB bug net , that one weighs 7.5 oz.

    Is this a Nano-7 bug net only or will it fit others as well ?

    Looking forward to the updates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moski View Post
    Is this a Nano-7 bug net only or will it fit others as well ?
    This was a net just shy of 120" long x 41" deep. Sizes could be adjusted, but obviously the weight would also change.

    What is your ridgeline length for your Nano-7? I don't own one, but I'm guessing that it would have to be close to the same as a 10ft gathered end (98ish) because of the width of this hammock.

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    1.98 ounces is very respectable. I've been working out some math in my head and may end up coming up with a slight tweak to my net to make it less likely to have net drooping down on your face at night. But I gotta go get more tulle and play with it.

    FWIW, I agree, I rarely need a net.
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    I'm thinking next time I may add a small mitten hook to the head end. This should allow a person to reach overhead and hook to the suspension cord with one hand bofore cinching down the drawstring.
    Drawback is that it adds yet another step to getting out. Time is an important factor for me when I wake up with a full bladder.

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    I've added a couple of loops on the top to connect to my ridge-line which is non-structural so I can take it off, slide it through the loops, then put it back on again so that it keeps the net oriented correctly and prevents it from twisting up.

    I'm working on a angled back cut. The top should be about 2" longer than the ridge-line before finishing and the bottom should be about 8" longer so that when the hole closes up the top won't sag and the bottom will still have enough material to close up around the hammock. It would probably save a few grams of weight too.
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    Also, FWIW, I tried making a similar net with nanoseeum from thru-hiker. So far it hasn't gone well. What I think the issue could be is stretch. Tulle seems to stretch enough that it gives and takes where it may need too with the hammock. With nanoseeum it doesn't seem to do that - the hammock feels confined. I think to make one out of nanoseeum it would have to be bigger than a tulle version to compensate.
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