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    Blackbird - First Night Sleeping

    So I've setup the new Blackbird on the side yard of my house a couple times now, and lounged in it...but last night was my first attempt at actually spending a whole night in it (got a little grief from the Fiance about it too! ). This is my first hammock, so bear with me, and I'm open to any guidance.

    I went to "bed" around 10:30pm, which is early for me, expecting to read for a bit then really try to hunker down for the night.

    I swear I was zonked out in 30 minutes...and I usually don't fall asleep that quickly...the gears are always turning in this birds head, so I don't nod off easy.

    I woke up almost 1am though, a little chilled (it was dropping to 60 and I have zero insulation), but that's not what was bothering me. My knees were hurting.

    I'm a side sleeper, and I guess the slight curvature of the hammock was putting pressure on my knees (bending them sideways) and it was just more than I could handle for the whole night. That, and some little bug snuck in there with me and must have been nibbling on my hand as I had several little bites (and I'm allergic to many bug bites). So I just called it a night and went back to the house and into bed.

    It was weird getting into a bed after the hammock...the hammock is really more comfortable, but I need to re-hang it or something...I just can't take this bending on my knees. If I can't figure this out, I may have to sell the Blackbird and...ugh, go to ground...


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    Stuffsack or small pillow under knees works wonders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shug View Post
    Stuffsack or small pillow under knees works wonders.
    Don't give up the comfort yet!
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    Oh, not giving up yet...I have too much invested (both time, effort, and money) to give up so soon.

    I'll try a pillow under the knees and see if this helps. I did have a small pillow between my knees...which is how I sleep in a bed...and I was fine for a while.

    I'm also going to try and adjust the angle on the suspension...it's hard to tell from that cell phone photo, but the hammock is over a small hill, and the foot end is on a tree that's 2' lower (down the hill) than the head side. So to get anywhere near that 30 degree angle, I had to throw the strap about 9' up into the tree, and I I'm still not quite 30 degrees (the spread between the trees is large as well, probably 20').

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    I would try again. I have very little problem with the inverted knee thing in my BB. Are you sure you were laying on teh diangle enough and the hammock wasn't strung too tight? Also before you go to the ground try a bridge hammock. That can be perfectly straight.
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    I haqd to work with mine to get that flat lay but you will find it. For me it involved setting it up and getting in and out a few times.
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    Well, don't stand on ceremony. Try a lot of different things. If you can find an angle that makes you more comfortable, I'd go with that over the "rules". JMO. Good luck! Don't give up!


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    So you are saying your knees were hurting ( common complaint for many 1st time hangers) but ON YOUR SIDE? That is a bit unusual, I don't think I have heard that before, if I am "hearing" you right. Side "torque" is the more common complaint with side sleeping. Was this in fetal position or with legs straight?
    For knee or left calf pain (assuming feet towards right side on diagonal) while back sleeping, put a folded jacket or whatever you have (maybe unworn clothes in a stuff sack). Usually, problem solved, in my experience. But I don't really know what to do about knee pain while on your side, other than fetal position. Although, putting some padding between your knees might help.

    If you can't work it out,you might want to try a JRB Bear Mountain Bridge hammock (BMBH). All gathered end ( like WBBB) and bridge hammocks each have their own set of pros and cons. But when it comes to the much sought after "flat" sleeping position(and easy pad use), on back or side, a bridge hammock is king of the hill.
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    one more trick i do is take my one leg bend it at the knee so it passes under the other leg. The bent leg isn't gettign any pressure b/c of it's position and the other knee gets elevated from having the first leg under it. Sounds uncomfortable but it really is quite anatural lay for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    one more trick i do is take my one leg bend it at the knee so it passes under the other leg. The bent leg isn't gettign any pressure b/c of it's position and the other knee gets elevated from having the first leg under it. Sounds uncomfortable but it really is quite anatural lay for me.
    +1 This also works really well for me. I also have the foot end higher than most I've seen. Dunno if this makes much difference, but I sure get a flatter lay myself.
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    If that picture is how it's hung, the ridgeline has too much slack.

    Hang it so that the ridgeline has just a little sag to it. When you get in, the ridgeline should be taut, but not so much that you can't grab it and put a little twist in. Foot end needs to be a bit higher than the head end.

    I would grab the strap on the stuff sack end and give it a yank. If tweaking the suspension doesn't get you there, you're too high on the trees. Go high when the trees are farther apart, like 20-25 feet. 15 - 20 feet you don't need to stand on things - about eye height.

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