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    Nice design, I'm thinking I might try this for a UL tarp for backpacking. With a 12' ridge and 96" spread it looks to be about 4 SY total fabric, would think that the whole tarp including guyline could be kept under 10 oz, but that could just be wishful thinking....
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    Below are some images. All of these can be cut from a 60" wide piece of fabric and have no seams. The downside of no ridge line seam is an "unpretty" pitch at the ridgeline because it rounds out a lot. But as I mentioned in the first post of this thread, it withstood a GA summer thunderstorm, which was pretty nasty. The last thing I was concerned about was how pretty the pitch was.

    1st pic
    3 tarps stacked showing coverage. I sleep feet to the left so the asym will be opposite for feet to the right. Shown in "xray mode" so the brown one is actually yellow so the yellow edges are the part of the brown tarp.
    purple is 11'RL x 87", slight asym
    pink is 10'RL x 102", heavy asym. This one is similar dimensions to a HH tarp
    Brown/yellow is 10' RL x 78", very slight asym

    The side coverage is pretty close to the same on the 10' and 11' tarps. The main difference is a little extra protection on the ends with the 11' tarp.

    It appears the 105" wide pink tarp has much more coverage at the head and feet when laying on the diagonal , due to the more obtuse angle at the head and feet. I haven't mocked that one up yet. My thoughts are I'm gonna have multiple tarps anyway and if I plan on getting a lot of weather, I would rather have a cat cut hex tarp with me. If you're only gonna have only one tarp, it might be a good compromise between coverage, setup and weight for the milder climates.

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    tarp dimensions. All ridgelines run left to right, although in the pink one it appears not to. Fabric edges are running southwest to northeast. Cut lines are the other edges.

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    Top view of the 10'RL x 78" wide tarp pitched at a 45 degree angle, storm mode and pretty steep. Person in picture is 72" toe to head. It has more coverage as you reduce the pitch angle.

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    different view of the 10'RL x 78" wide tarp showing pitch angle. Tarp is 15" above the face of the person. I would drop tarp down onto my hammock ridgeline in storm mode to increase protection from blowing rain.

    4th view
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    Whoo that guy looks really uncomfortable lying in the mud in the 4th view. Better get him up into a nice comfy hammock, pronto.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NCPatrick View Post
    Whoo that guy looks really uncomfortable lying in the mud in the 4th view. Better get him up into a nice comfy hammock, pronto.

    I don't seem to be able to put him in the hammock. Maybe he's out cooking breakfast.
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    You guys are killin' me.... Bacon and eggs please....
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    Quote Originally Posted by nacra533 View Post
    I don't seem to be able to put him in the hammock. Maybe he's out cooking breakfast.
    Well thanks for trying. I'm sure he appreciates the effort.


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    These tarps designs are great. And I'd imagine they would be pretty light.
    But cut against the bias, won't they prone to drooping in the middle.
    Seems like the other diamond/asym cut tarp have that issue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gargoyle View Post
    ...won't they prone to drooping in the middle...?
    How about a pole mod?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nacra533 View Post
    The downside of no ridge line seam is an "unpretty" pitch at the ridgeline because it rounds out a lot. But as I mentioned in the first post of this thread, it withstood a GA summer thunderstorm, which was pretty nasty. The last thing I was concerned about was how pretty the pitch was.
    I tried 2 of these this past weekend. I'll try to get photos tonight.

    First Tarp - 132" x 88". Nothing cat cut. Roll hemmed all edges.
    Ridgeline is floppy.

    Second Tarp - 120" x 87".
    Held up raw fabric shape for inspection - ridgeline was floppy.
    Cat cut all 4 sides approx 1-1.5" & held up - ridgeline was floppy.
    Cat cut ridgeline 2", sewed back up & held up - ridgeline was floppy.
    Added grosgrain edging & held up - ridgeline was floppy.

    On second thought - "Who cares? I kinda like it when the ridgeline is a little floppy. It doesn't detract from the performance of the tarp at all."

    Quote Originally Posted by MacEntyre View Post
    How about a pole mod?
    Wondering how this would work on a diamond shaped tarp?
    Hmmm... maybe I'll play with this tonight.
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    The ridgeline is floppy in mine also. The sides are not. One thing that helped was to hang it a loose on the ridgeline and pull the sides very tight. Then I raised the ridgeline a little. It didn't allow much. I didn't really care about the floppy, especially after the wind it withstood.

    One unintended benefit of having the bias on the ridgeline which meant a bias cut only on 1/2 of each sides was it pitched pretty tight on the sides with only one stake.

    Pulling on the bias can actually give a tighter pitch if only able to tighten in one direction. An example borrowed from Slo Sails and Canvas illustrates this.

    The bottom flash player is where I got this info from.
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