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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    400 pounds is the limit to the weight of the person or persons. They will pick up 1000+ pounds. But a 400 pound person can put more than a 400 pound load on a suspension, especially if it is strung tight. Honestly there aren't many hammocks that are rated for 400 pound people.
    Interesting i've never seen weights listed in this manner, usually they are listed with the maximum strength of the device, not the weight of the person. Ordered 2 pairs.

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    Okay, it's a little confusing, especially when comparing against specs for climbing biners. Good to know they're just as strong as originally reported, though.

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    so the advantage to these biners over say
    http://www.ems.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3717877

    is what about and ounce? maybe less

    Does anyone know what the actually kN on them closed will be for a real comparison?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomsawyer222 View Post
    so the advantage to these biners over say
    http://www.ems.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3717877

    is what about and ounce? maybe less

    Does anyone know what the actually kN on them closed will be for a real comparison?
    Those biner are a very good and light biner. At 22 grams they are really light for the strength. They are meant for climbing and do that well however hey are overkill for what we are doing. The Dutch Biner weighs less than half the weight however it is not rated for climbing. I have lifted 1700 pounds with a Dutch Biner and all that happened was the part flexed until the spring gate hit the latch. I can lift 1000 pounds and still operate the spring gate. And at 10 grams they are practically weightless.
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    I will say this about the Dutch biner

    I have 14 nights on my set and they are going strong....the spring gate is well made and VERY strong....there is no worry of anything slipping out from under them..
    they are a very Solid biner...they are Little Tanks i'v let mine set out in rain and high noon sun just to see how they would hold up and they looks as good as the day i got them
    and they make setup and take down so much faster

    Get them while there hot !!!
    It puts the Underquilt on it's hammock ... It does this whenever it gets cold

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    The wait is over! Ordered a pair


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    Got myself a couple pairs too!

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    Ordered 2 pairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomsawyer222 View Post
    so the advantage to these biners over say
    http://www.ems.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3717877

    is what about and ounce? maybe less

    Does anyone know what the actually kN on them closed will be for a real comparison?
    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Those biner are a very good and light biner. At 22 grams they are really light for the strength. They are meant for climbing and do that well however hey are overkill for what we are doing. The Dutch Biner weighs less than half the weight however it is not rated for climbing. I have lifted 1700 pounds with a Dutch Biner and all that happened was the part flexed until the spring gate hit the latch. I can lift 1000 pounds and still operate the spring gate. And at 10 grams they are practically weightless.
    .

    Actually, the website as tomsawyer222 gave, http://www.ems.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3717877 show those Black Diamond 'biners weighing 36grams (not the 22grams Dutch stated). I'm thinking Dutch may have been thinking of the Camp Nano 23 that weigh 23grams) http://www.camp.it/EN/template01.aspx?codicemenu=71

    Either way, neither can match the "gramweenie" weight of the Dutch Biner!

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    You are right I was thinking it was the Nano biners.
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