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    Senior Member ikemouser's Avatar
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    My system is a 2 step setup. It is the same as a webbing setup, but only lighter since you don't use webbing for the whole length of the suspension using whoppies instead, attached to the tree hugger via nacabiner, dutchbiner, carabiner, or permanently attached. Same simplicity, lighter.

    My hammock is up in less than a minute and my whole setup weighs less than 20oz including all suspension components.

    What you need:
    Two six foot lengths of polypro/polypro webbing for tree huggers with an eye sewn on each end
    Two dutch clips or two carabiners
    One of these: nacrabiner, carabiner, or neither if you run your sling through the eye before finishing your whoppie sling
    Thirty feet of dynaglide line to make two whoppie slings to be attached via locked brummel.
    Small needles with big heads. These are not sharp needles, they are sold in a pack of 4-5 at your local fabric store, one is usually blue and plastic, the others metal.

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    Making the setup:
    One whoppie sling on each end of your hammock:
    See the whoppie sling thread for how to make slings, make sure you make the end that attaches to the hammock properly.

    Two huggers
    Take the webbing and cut 2 6 foot lengths. Sew an eye in each end, sew it strong. Sew a dutch clip(or carabiner) into one eye of each hugger.

    Make Nacrabiner:
    See loop/shackle thread for how to make a nacrabiner or use a carabiner instead for a weight penalty.
    Attach the nacrabiner to the hugger and to the sling, or simply clip a carabiner to the hugger and to the sling.

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    setup process:
    wrap tree hugger around tree 1 and clip onto itself
    wrap around tree 2 and clip onto itself
    adjust whoppie sling to desired lay

    oh yea, make your slings from dynaglide, will pack really small and be really light. Polypro is the lightest webbing. No knots, no marlin spikes, no time.
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    I too am a noob, like many others on this forum, but.....am I missing something here? I've read lots, and watched multiple suspension-related videos (such as Shug's and Grizz's), but I've yet to find a simpler method so far than the combo of whoopie slings larksheaded to the hammock and connected to tree straps with a marlin hitch/toggle combo. Am I missing some component? Why add the complexity/weight of biners/rings etc etc. Can some vet weigh in on this? Just Jeff? Shug? Cannibal? I've had 5+ nights of hanging with the afontioned syspension and it seems perfect...

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    Senior Member Just Jeff's Avatar
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    I like whoopies...that's what I have on my hammock for now, and it's larksheaded as you mention.

    I've stayed away from the marlinspike b/c it's still a hitch that's not needed, IMO. Lots of folks use it for convenience...I just don't think it adds enough to the system to be worth the simple click of a Dutch Biner or Dutch Clip on the hugger.

    The reason I didn't list them as the most simple is b/c, as a system, it still has moving parts and hardware...by definition that means it's not as "simple" as other methods. But it's the one I use b/c it's a good balance between simple components and easy setup. And if one part fails (as it did on my Smokies trip) it's very easy to compensate.
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    Senior Member ikemouser's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flatland View Post
    I too am a noob, like many others on this forum, but.....am I missing something here? I've read lots, and watched multiple suspension-related videos (such as Shug's and Grizz's), but I've yet to find a simpler method so far than the combo of whoopie slings larksheaded to the hammock and connected to tree straps with a marlin hitch/toggle combo. Am I missing some component? Why add the complexity/weight of biners/rings etc etc. Can some vet weigh in on this? Just Jeff? Shug? Cannibal? I've had 5+ nights of hanging with the afontioned syspension and it seems perfect...
    We're talking about simplicity/speed. You still have to wrap your hugger around the tree, run it through itself, find a stick (break it to length, make sure its strong enough, get rid of any sharp edges to protect your eyes), marlin spike-it to the hugger, then run your sling over it, and perhaps move the stick up or down the hugger if you can't get the lay adjusted properly. Then do the same for both sides. You could have a toggle already attached to your hugger, but you would still have to do everything else-and you would be adding hardware too. For the penalty of 2 dutch clips, all i have to do is clip my hugger onto itself on each end.

    My weight is so low i can handle adding two dutch clips(12gs each) to it(11lb baseweight). My whole setup including hammock, huggers, slings, 2 stakes for WBBB + elastic tieouts, nacrabiners and dutchclips, is less than 20oz.
    Last edited by ikemouser; 09-07-2010 at 08:52.

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