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    Suggestion For Winter UQ For WBBB In Northern Ontario

    All,

    In two months I am moving to Toronto and will be playing in the snow a bit more than in previous years. So I'm trying to prepare a winter kit before I cross the border. Looking for some -5 to 10 degree recommendations. That said, I consider myself a warm sleeper for the most part. For example, I can take my Montbell UL SS Hugger #4 down to about 20 degrees without any issues.

    I've been researching UQ's for a while and there are quite a few choices out there. This post is in hopes that you guys with cold weather experience can throw out some ideas or types that might help guide me along my way.

    I would like to add that I've been really happy with my second-hand 3-season yeti I purchased off of a member here earlier this summer. But I'm uncertain if a 2/3's UQ will suffice for winter in northern Ontario (Kilarney /Sudbury / Timmins Area)

    Thoughts?

    -Jason K.

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    I probly said this 100 times ....and i'm more then happy to say it another 100 times...

    Winter Crowsnest

    I have a Winter crowsnest...i'v had it in some really cold weather
    7 degrees at the NJ hang...probly colder in the back yard playing around
    and let me tell ya...i'm never cold with that baby under me
    his work is outstanding .....and they are a joy to order from

    don't get me wrong ...i have and love my JRB quilts...and had a chance to use a yeti for a bit and really liked it...and also i make my own quilts
    but the winter crowsnest is the best winter quilt i have found so far
    It puts the Underquilt on it's hammock ... It does this whenever it gets cold

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    Greenless you always beat me to the punch . I used my crows nest on last years NJ trip and it got down to seven and kept me toasty. I have only seen other quilts and inspected them and every quilt Ive seen by all cottage industries is great work but I have 4 of Stormcrows quilts (summer and winter set's) and in fitting with the BB they are a match made in heaven IMHO. The reason that I am such a fan of my crows nest is the 3/4 length and The dimensions are a bit wider in the shoulder area so it really comes up and wraps up around you with and dosent slip in the night time. And most importantly Adam is a great guy to work with and is really accomodating to his customers. But which ever quilt you get im sure you'll be happy with. I have some pictures of both the summer and winter crows nest in my gallery FYI if you wanna check them out.
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    I've used my Winter Yeti in temps well below zero; stayed nice and warm.
    Granted, my coldest temps have been in arid Colorado, but I've also been to -4f in New England with plenty of humidity and stayed warm. Love my Winter Yeti!
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    Don't want to forget the JRB MW4. Rated to zero, and I think some folks have taken it below that no problem. I don't know the actual ratings of the other winter choices like Yeti and Crowsnest and others, but I think they are similar. I would suppose it would just be a matter of finding the actual measured loft of these quality choices and going with the most loft, even taking an "overstuff" option if available. Considering that you will probably be going below the official rating of all of these, so every mm of loft will count. Along with other oh so helpful design aspects like differential cuts. Also don't forget vapor/radiant barriers added to any of them, which I think the Yeti is meant to work with from the get go. Might add 10 or more degrees.

    Very much below zero and I suspect you will be adding either a full length or torso pad with any of them.

    Finally, don't forget a NON-dif cut approach, like the Speer PeaPod. Especially if you are not an extra big guy. Though only rated to 20 on the bottom, it is IMO the easiest of all systems to give a boost when needed. Add a space blanket and a quilt even a pad below, and I think this thing could be pushed to just about whatever temp needed. In fact, I wonder if your 3 season Yeti would fit inside a PeaPod? I wouldn't be surprised, depending on how big you are. But whether extra big or not, have you seen the extra big PolarPod here:
    http://stores.tttrailgear.com/-strse...Pod/Detail.bok ?

    I don't see any specs, but the name seems to indicate it is warmer. Plus, if significantly larger, it would not only allow for bigger folks, but would make it even easier to add whatever extra insulation you needed.

    Have fun with all the excellent choices and trying to decide!
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    I'd like to say "Welcome to Canada!" in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by odds View Post
    I'd like to say "Welcome to Canada!" in advance.
    +1 Welcome to the great white north, Jason. Well partially white if last winter was any indication in the Toronto area. For the record, Toronto is considered to be in Southern Ontario.

    So when you say Northern Ontario for your hanging, where are you referring to?

    If you are camping any where say south of Algonquin Park, just bear in mind that with all of the Great Lake water sources, the winter temps tend to be more humid and damp than other areas that get a fair amount of now. So the temperatures in this area will feel more bone chilling cold than other areas.

    As for winter insulation options, I can't recommend any as I don't have any winter hanging experience in this area. But I do recall that a few hearty Canadian Winter Hangers use JRB Mt. Washington 4 quilts and do well.

    Cheers

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    Link to the JRB Mt. Washington 4 UQ.

    http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=21876
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    With a MW4 UQ and a supplemental pad, you can handle temps well below zero.
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