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    Hanging without straps and rope damage

    Is there any concern about damaging the hammock rope when using it to directly wrap around the tree without straps?

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    over time abrasion will wear down the sheathing. but the rope will usually do more damage to the tree than the other way around

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    As Kohburn said the biggest issue is damage to the tree. Its possible to kill a soft barked tree by a rope cutting into the under bark layer all the way around.

    Even if you don't do it all the way around the damage weakens the tree and makes them more susceptible to insect and disease invasion. Again potentially killing the tree.

    Better to use webbing as some sort of tree strap to prevent this sort of damage. Not to mention the webbing stays put better than rope. 2-3 wraps of webbing and you don't even need to do anything to hold it there.
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    Plus, as discussed in another thread, some park officials will give you heck for hanging with ropes. Others may be more forgiving about the webbing.

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    PLUS....

    The damage to the trees is the underlying motive for the "heck" giving... So the more proactive we are at protecting the trees the less officials are likely to be concerned enough to be handing out the "heck".

    And there's no wear on ropes.
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    Hammock manufacturers should promote the use of straps to protect their economic future. If activist tree huggers see hammock camping as a threat they will move regulatory agencies to ban tree hanging.

    Individual users should learn to use straps for both the hammock and, if tied at a different height, the tarp. Although it can be argued that the tarp puts little or no stress on the tree bark, people who are concerned about anything hanging from a tree will be just as upset by the tarp rope as the hammock rope.

    I'll bet if the leaders of an influential outdoor organization like the Adirondack Mountain Club (of which i am a member) got a stick up their a@# about ropes around trees, they could induce the NYS DEC to enact a regulation prohibiting tree hanging. If tree hangers don't take affirmative action to educate both hangers and non-hangers, then we may soon find ourselves using our hammocks for nothing but backyard lounges.

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    i doubt any tree will ever die from damage ocured by a tarp line. the bsa and other lnt organizations have been setting up tarp ridgelines for cooking tarps and such for years, and i've never heard of anyone being concerned about tree damage from such activity. but, just b/c it doesn't cause damage, doesn't mean someone can't claim that it does.

    isn't bear bagging still widely accepted? this is way worse than even hanging without tree straps, as the line saws into the bark of the tree as the weighted bag is raised and then lowered again in the morning.

    tree straps should definately be used for the suspension, but for a tarp, might be pushing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warbonnetguy View Post
    i doubt any tree will ever die from damage ocured by a tarp line. the bsa and other lnt organizations have been setting up tarp ridgelines for cooking tarps and such for years, and i've never heard of anyone being concerned about tree damage from such activity. but, just b/c it doesn't cause damage, doesn't mean someone can't claim that it does.

    isn't bear bagging still widely accepted? this is way worse than even hanging without tree straps, as the line saws into the bark of the tree as the weighted bag is raised and then lowered again in the morning.

    tree straps should definately be used for the suspension, but for a tarp, might be pushing it.
    I've recently taken to attaching my tarp line to the carabiner that holds my straps around the tree. I've also been attaching the line that suspends my netting (Claytor hammock) to the CC buckles that adjusts my straps.
    Less line is needed with both applications and everything is in direct line with the hammock. I'm also using figure 9s with both. I love this system.

    Miguel

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    I agree about bear bagging... Thats why there are commercial systems that avoid this. And why many of us use our own systems to avoid this also.

    I use a short length of thick climbing rope around the tree branch (5/8" diam) that holds a block and tackle which I use to hoist the food bag. Its good for the tree and really easy for a solo camper to hoist even a pretty hefty weight. All with no damage to the tree.
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    do you climb the tree to set the pulley?

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