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    Quote Originally Posted by Shug View Post
    I just plain like my Dutch Clips......
    I have gone with and without. For me ..... the DC.
    No science to it for me .... I met Dutch and he made me laugh.
    Done deal.
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    I like your sense of loyalty based on the value of humor.

    I too like the Dutch Clips, it is faster for me than running the hugger through the loop and it looks cool too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleMJM View Post
    I like your sense of loyalty based on the value of humor.

    I too like the Dutch Clips, it is faster for me than running the hugger through the loop and it looks cool too.
    A good laugh wins me every time.
    I also like looking at mine. There is a back-woods "fancy" there.
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    I kind of wondered about this topic before. The Dutch clips do look pretty cool, but in all honesty it takes, what, 3 seconds to pull the tree strap through the loop? I know, though, that this obsession is ultimately about gadgetry etc, so I guess I get it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shug View Post
    I just plain like my Dutch Clips......
    I have gone with and without. For me ..... the DC.
    No science to it for me .... I met Dutch and he made me laugh.
    Done deal.
    Shug
    I like this answer and would like to Ditto Shug as well as add that my dutch clips were a gift from 2Q at the Spring MAHHA....now mine have sentimental value as well as being shiny.
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    I use 1.5 in webbing with sewn loops. I normally pass one end through the webbing loop and a mini carabiner as a no-hassle toggle. With whoopies I had my hammock and suspension to 7.65 oz. I like the mini carabiners.

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    No Dutch clips or biners for me. Straps and whoopies work just fine. Fast, easy and elegant. Why clutter up your rig with more stuff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flatland View Post
    I kind of wondered about this topic before. The Dutch clips do look pretty cool, but in all honesty it takes, what, 3 seconds to pull the tree strap through the loop? I know, though, that this obsession is ultimately about gadgetry etc, so I guess I get it!
    Quote Originally Posted by drewboy View Post
    No Dutch clips or biners for me. Straps and whoopies work just fine. Fast, easy and elegant. Why clutter up your rig with more stuff?
    There are some people that have their suspension pemanently attached to their hammocks (like whoopieslings.com's "all in one") so a biner or dutch clip is mandatory in those cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TiredFeet View Post
    Dutch clips or carabiners, etc are totally un-necessary if using the Marlin Spike Hitch and whoopies.

    They don't really make things any faster, but they do add weight.

    Also, there is absolutely no reason to pull the webbing through the end loop. Not all of it anyway. Just pull a short bight, say 6" to 12". Tie your marlin spike hitch on the bight and hang the whoopie on it.

    Now you say it is quicker to clip a carabiner than it is to pull the bight through.

    Yes, but it takes a lot longer to unclip the carabiner than it takes to pull the bight out. So, in my experience, the total time is actually about the same or longer with the carabiner.

    Now if you have a full webbing suspension, then the carabiner or dutch clip or JRB triglide is probably needed.

    TeeDee and I had been getting disillusioned with the weight and bulk of the full webbing suspension after using one for some months. The final blow came when we had a trip that the trees had a lot of sap running down them and the sap got on the hammocks when we packed up in the mornings. We liked the idea of having the suspension and tree hugger as one piece, but the tree sap was really too grungy to stay with that method. Lying in a hammock with tree sap on it and getting sticky was not pleasant.

    Just our experience.
    From my experience dutch clips do make it faster because my slings are connected to my huggers(nacrabiners-removeable for sap issues). So i just wrap around the tree and clip. You have to wrap around the tree, tie a marlin spike, then pur your sling over it correct? Wanna race?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter_pan View Post
    Dutch Biner is useful if you want to disconnect the wet or tree sapped suspension for separate packing from your hammock (and UQ if you leave it attached).

    Pan
    A weightless nacrabiner can also do the same job, and its not finicky as you dont have to remove it from your sling unless you have a reason to(sap). Just an option.

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