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    One point so far overlooked in this discussion

    is that Big Papi is planning on using the BA Insulated Air Core pad.

    I have one of these as well, and it looks (at first glance) to be an old-school air mattress, with longitudinal air-inflated tubes. But it also has a layer of synthetic insulation bonded to the underside of the upper surface and is rated to (I believe) +15 degF.

    Because of its design, I believe it will curl into the bottom of the hammock more readily that a Thermorest or other self-inflator. That is a plus in my book.

    The only downside I see is that it is only 20" wide, as memory serves. So when it curls around your body it might not insulate as much as would be desired.

    Jim

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    JSaults, I actually have the 25 inch version, due to my manly girth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Papi View Post


    Am I looking at this too simply? Keep in mind I am a newb, so I am not trying to be offensive/arrogant, just kind of confused. Does the clarks product cost keep more people from buying it? It is my first hammock, so I am guessing I must be ignorant.

    Help?

    I can't speak for anyone else. I can only tell you that the last hammock I would ever consider buying would be a clark... I'm sure it is a fine quality product but it is not for me, for a list of reasons. If I have that kind of money at any point, I'm not going to spend it on a hammock. Nor am I going to buy a hammock that gave me claustrophobic panic attacks just looking at the pictures of it. Then there is the list of features I wouldn't use... I'd tear off the pockets, replace the tarp with something else, leave the weathershield permanently off the hammock - by the time I finished it wouldn't be a Clark any more. No one's going to spend that kind of money when they just need a different hammock. And the body of the hammock did not appear to me to allow much space for side sleeping on the diagonal, which is important to me as well.

    In sum, the answer to your questions - all of them - is "personal preference" - it's like asking why everyone's favorite car isn't the same as yours. I won't be buying a SUV, Land Rover, or a BMW coupe any time soon, either. Sometimes there are needs for difference features - not everyone wants or needs all the features of the Clark, some people have no bug worries, no winter worries, no real motivation to have an all inclusive bomber shelter... I want light and comfortable. My comfort doesn't require heavy durable fabric, or a huge price tag, or sixteen different hammocks... Other people prefer to try and use many different hammock styles. Still others enjoy making their own gear and just keep doing it. It's how cottage gear industries start..

    So, no, it's not that complicated at all.

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    I agree wiht Lori kind of:

    For the very reasons she says she would not buy a Clark I would. For me the Clark is a single system that does everything I may need without adding other "stuff." If I want, I can "strip it down" to just a hammock or I can leave the pieces on I need for that particular trip. It is the Land Rover of the Hammock industry IMO. It will do anything. But if you are only driving back and forth to work on paved roads, it is a little overkill. But if you don't really know what conditions you will be driving in day to day, you can get in it and not worry.

    And if you just want to have the coolest most expensive ride in the neighborhood.............well you need a Clark.

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    Lori, money is relative, how a person spends it is their choice. Terms like "huge price tag" aren't really helpful, since one mans "huge price tag" is anothers pocket money. A price is a price, if you're comfortable with it and you like a product you buy it, if you're not, you don't. Simple. Don't start adding terms such as that which lets face it, show a prejudice which isn't really required and doesn't add anything useful.

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    your responses have been interesting, for sure. I suppose everyone has their reasons for doing what they do, and that is the beauty of it all. I hope to meet you all someday, this forum/community is pretty interesting, thats for sure. Hope to meet some people at the mt rogers hang and any ohio hangs that happen to take place.

    I guess for me, I wasn't so much worried about the money, as the older i get, the more stuff i get, which means I only am left with expensive toys to drool over.

    Happy hanging!

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    ps I also drive a Land Rover

    and this is it


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    Quote Originally Posted by NickJ View Post
    Lori, money is relative, how a person spends it is their choice. Terms like "huge price tag" aren't really helpful, since one mans "huge price tag" is anothers pocket money. A price is a price, if you're comfortable with it and you like a product you buy it, if you're not, you don't. Simple. Don't start adding terms such as that which lets face it, show a prejudice which isn't really required and doesn't add anything useful.

    What are you complaining about, really? Did I not just say it's all personal preference? I think it's a huge price and I'm not alone in that. I did not say it wasn't worth the price - worth is also subjective. I could say "it's the most expensive hammock" and be more accurate, I suppose.

    I didn't come here to start a war - just add another perspective. Clark users are going to be died in the wool Clark fans, just like the rest of us love our hammocks we made with our own bleeding fingers, or our Hennessy, or our Blackbird. We all have our reasons and rationalizations. I see no prejudice in my words. You can think differently.. and that is your prerogative.

    I think the OP asks no questions that others have not asked about any hammock brand. Why do you choose your gear as you do? Answers are all as unique as the individual.
    Last edited by lori; 10-12-2010 at 15:11.

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    I think it's fabulous that we have choices!

    Some folks love the appeal of the Clark package, and how it fits their needs. That's great.. Others want a more modular system. That's great too...

    Everyone should view the available options, and find the one that suits them best. In the end, we'll all be comfy in our chosen hammocks!

    HYOH
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    Quote Originally Posted by NickJ View Post
    ps I also drive a Land Rover

    and this is it

    I feel ya nick, I just bought a 2010 jeep wrangler unlimited, islander edition. Totally a baddddd ride. Nice Rover

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