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    Alternatives to a slippery half hitch

    Hey guys,

    The slippery half hitches I use to tie off my suspension (1" webbing through descender rings) aren't very reliable - they often slip so once I have it set up 'right' I loose the slippery part and just tie it off with a single or double hitch. Works great apart from in the morning its a PITA to untie them.

    Could someone recommend an alternative knot that'll work with webbing as a safety knot thats also easy to tie/untie?

    Cheers!

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    Just toggle your slippery half-hitch. I've been doing that for years. Find a toggle (a little bit of branch, etc.), tie your slippery half-hitch, place the toggle through the slippery loop, then pull the tail down snug on the toggle. When you are ready to untie, you can pull the toggle out, or just break it (it's a branch and you aren't taking it with you).
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    After making the slippery half hitch try making another slippery half hitch using the loop you just made.
    You could also feed another loop made from the end of the webbing through the first loop.
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    I used slippery half hitches for years without any probs HB.

    Just put a second one through to lock it off and then once you've put your weight on it should tighten up nicely. In fact I used to keep daisy chaining the slack to keep things tidy and off the floor.

    I think you can make it out on this one ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Highbinder View Post
    Hey guys,

    The slippery half hitches I use to tie off my suspension (1" webbing through descender rings) aren't very reliable - they often slip so once I have it set up 'right' I loose the slippery part and just tie it off with a single or double hitch. Works great apart from in the morning its a PITA to untie them.

    Could someone recommend an alternative knot that'll work with webbing as a safety knot thats also easy to tie/untie?

    Cheers!

    you could get some of the tri-plates from arrowhead and you don't even need to tie a backup knot at all, and they're probably slightly lighter than your descending rings too

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    How are you attaching to the rings?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rmy0b3lX2N0

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    Trail stick seems like a good idea. Infact I have a pair of toggles I made from Beech from when I was tying off my suspension with marlen spikes

    odds, you mean making the loop big and using the loop rather than the working end to make the hitch?

    Shewie, what do you mean 'through'?

    Triplates would be good. Buckles would be good too - AHE got em back in stock just after I ordered the rings

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highbinder View Post

    Shewie, what do you mean 'through'?
    Reach through the loop you've just created and pull another loop through with the hanging tape. Keep continuing this until you've got the tapes nice and short.


    I think Will shows it in his tutorial, maybe not with the hammock tapes but certainly with the tarp ridgeline ....

    http://www.bushblade.co.uk/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highbinder View Post

    odds, you mean making the loop big and using the loop rather than the working end to make the hitch?
    Yes thats what I meant.

    The other suggestion I mentioned was taking the working end, make a loop and feed it through the first loop and tighten. Doing this will allow you to pull the working end and it will undo both loops with one pull.

    I also second Brandon's suggestion of trying the cinch buckles from Arrowhead equipment. They do not require a back up hitch, are very secure and are smaller and lighter than descending rings.
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