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    You sir are my hero. Simple is better imo and these instructions come accross as diy starter friendly enough that I pulled the trigger and ordered some to give it a try. Mind if I ask how much this weighs in the end and how tightly does this pack (roll) down? I'm imagining it being equivalent to my poncho liner UQ. Is that a fair estimate?

    I'm debating tweaking this and sewing the IX into my PLUQ since the channels/cord etc would already be setup. Any opinion on whether that's a bad call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBob58 View Post
    Question: If the inner layer is IX and "pulled snug" against you, do you loose the insulating qualities of the inner layer of IX? If the innermost shell layer was nylon, all 3 layers could hang with a very small air gap from the snug fitting nylon. Of course, it adds weight, but might also increase durability while improving warmth( due to allowing air gap with all 3 IX layers).
    I think you'll find that the top IX layer will need to be snug up against you for that initial warmth - if it's spaced out with some differentially cut nylon, I think (and could very well be wrong) that heat would more easily 'slip' out the sides. You won't be 'smooshing' the top layer anyway, as it's suspended by shock cord and fitted to the curvature of the hammock - as you move, it will move freely enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by JerryW View Post
    Question: The big box lumber stores all sell foam sheet meant as an underlayment for wood flooring. It APPEARS to be the same foam, just minus the sewn-on scrim layers of Insultex. Does anyone have an opinion as to whether this would work equally as well as IX?

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    Yes. It appears to be the same thing. And it is very similar, thought not quite the same thing. I don't think it will work equally as well, but I do know it will work well - I've done it (not with underlayment, but with the microfoam used in shipping large screen tv's), and it worked. It's bulkier and heavier, but could be more obtainable.
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    Scott, these are excellent intructions! Definitely worthy of a "Sticky!"

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    The foam underlayment I've seen is much thicker than the poly foam that IX is made from... maybe 2 layers are enough?

    I have some of this foam that's much thinner, it was used to pack a new casio keyboard! (Thanks to my daughter Bookworm for having a b-day and wanting a kb!)

    Any idea how low you can go with this UQ?
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    hey guys, i have been surfing the web trying to find where to buy insultex, but i cant find anything about price or where to get it...can you all direct me??
    Thanks. Dan

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    You can find it at Tree to Tree Trail Gear, one of the gear makers on here. http://stores.tttrailgear.com/-strse...tex/Detail.bok

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    this gets me stoked. will be ordering IX soon!!

    also what kinda temps are we getting out of this design???
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    Not sure about the flooring underlay but I remember a thread somewhere discussing the fact that one of the packing ones is basically a non-scrimmed IX. Think MacEntyre was doing some testing on it vs actual IX but don't remember results.

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    I'm trying to do a weight estimate. So far I've got 138" or 3.83 yards of IX at 1.66 oz/linear yard = 6.4 oz. 24 ft or 8 yards of 1/8" shock cord at 0.2 oz./yard = 1.6 oz. That gives us 8.0 oz. so far. Does anyone have a good weight per foot for the 1.5" grosgrain?

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    Very nice instructions! Thanks for posting them.


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