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    underquilt nitty gritty

    Okay guys,

    I have my poncho liner here. It has ties on each corner and in the center of each side.

    How do I fasten it to the hammock in order to get a "poormans underquilt". NEO says he uses one in this application. It's rarely below 50 here in Florida, so the liner should be enough.

    I have read and looked at Speer's and Jacks r Better's pages on the subject. And everyone else's pages I can find. I know how to tie the cord to the hammock line. The rest is a mystery. (Since I have never seen one in the flesh.)

    My questions, specifically are.
    1.Shock/ elastic cord needed (Yes or No)
    If yes, does WalMart sell it or do I have to mail order?

    2. Are there side to side ropes/ ties/ lanyards? to pull it up to the hammock body?

    3. Can I at least test the concept without sewing?

    Any and all help appreciated.

    Tom

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    I have never used a poncho liner, but I would use shock cords for any type of underquilt just to be sure not to overload the quilt fabric. If you used cord or rope you may end up with the quilt supporting your weight instead of the hammock supporting it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teblum View Post
    Okay guys,

    I have my poncho liner here. It has ties on each corner and in the center of each side.

    How do I fasten it to the hammock in order to get a "poormans underquilt". NEO says he uses one in this application. It's rarely below 50 here in Florida, so the liner should be enough.

    I have read and looked at Speer's and Jacks r Better's pages on the subject. And everyone else's pages I can find. I know how to tie the cord to the hammock line. The rest is a mystery. (Since I have never seen one in the flesh.)

    My questions, specifically are.
    1.Shock/ elastic cord needed (Yes or No)
    If yes, does WalMart sell it or do I have to mail order?

    2. Are there side to side ropes/ ties/ lanyards? to pull it up to the hammock body?

    3. Can I at least test the concept without sewing?

    Any and all help appreciated.

    Tom
    Tom,

    Neo's poncho liner is a resized one of a kind JRB Nest replica made by Peter Pan as an experiment and later sold to Neo since he does not do down...It has all the normal attachments of a JRB Nest...it is no where near a stock poncho liner... When used alone, I would not expect comfort below 60 degrees from poncho liner quilts, primarily due to the extremely loose weave of mil standard poncho liner nylon and overall thinness.

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    I converted a thinsulate GI poncho liner to an underquilt using the KAQ pattern from http://www.kickassquilts.com/Make1.html. I just trimed the liner to the dimensions listed, sewed the border ribbon that I ripped from the original edges of the liner to the new trimmed edges, inserted shock cord from a tent pole repair kit purcahsed at Academy Sports just as described on the KAQ web site. Works great for my HHULB. Used it two weeks ago in the Spsey Wilderness with a 1/2" CCF pad at 31 degrees and a 15 degree down bag as a quilt. Slept fine except from some minor condendsation on pad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southmark View Post
    I converted a thinsulate GI poncho liner to an underquilt using the KAQ pattern from http://www.kickassquilts.com/Make1.html. I just trimed the liner to the dimensions listed, sewed the border ribbon that I ripped from the original edges of the liner to the new trimmed edges, inserted shock cord from a tent pole repair kit purcahsed at Academy Sports just as described on the KAQ web site. Works great for my HHULB. Used it two weeks ago in the Spsey Wilderness with a 1/2" CCF pad at 31 degrees and a 15 degree down bag as a quilt. Slept fine except from some minor condendsation on pad.
    I think a 1/2" pad and a 15* bag would probably get me to around 30* by themselves, though....

    What's the liner/quilt weigh, btw?
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    The Poncho Liner underquilt weighs 18 oz. I'll take some photos this weekend. I have it set up in the backyard as it is going down to the low 30's tonight and I am going to test it it without the 1/2" CCF. Just ponch liner underquilt, smart wool long underwear, wool socks and fleece cap. At age 59 I tend to sleep cold. One photo attached from Sipsey trip. I'll take some of just quilt this weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter_pan View Post
    Tom,

    Neo's poncho liner is a resized one of a kind JRB Nest replica made by Peter Pan as an experiment and later sold to Neo since he does not do down...It has all the normal attachments of a JRB Nest...it is no where near a stock poncho liner... When used alone, I would not expect comfort below 60 degrees from poncho liner quilts, primarily due to the extremely loose weave of mil standard poncho liner nylon and overall thinness.

    Pan


    yeah its an awesome poncho liner,thanks jack neo


    i have used it down to the low 50,s alone and down to 28 degrees by adding dry leaves th the poncho liner neo
    Last edited by Just Jeff; 11-17-2006 at 19:29.

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    Sounds great, southmark - have any pics?
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    Just Jeff,
    I sewed attachments to my Granite Gear silnylon pack cover and converted it to A Just Jeff Gear Hammock/Pack Cover. Thanks for the idea. Works great.

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    Glad you like the gear hammock. What kind of pack is in that picture?
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