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    What about a taut line hitch? Do the hills in windy conditions/easy with gloves on?
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    Tautline hitch isn't good with the LashIt line...even if I go 5 loops it won't hold...and it's a lot of fiddling.

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    Tautline hitch works great with some line, not as great with others. I use the tautline hitch with spyderline (polyester sheath over dyneema core) with great success. Spyderline was designed for rigging on sailboats, so knots work great with it. It is more expensive than zing-it, but worth it for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by av8r View Post
    It looks like the hammock forum store is out of stock on the mini line loks in all color varieties.

    Please let me know if anyone has a reputable alternate source in the US for these.

    I ordered line from Dutch to try Shane's system out, but my web search for alt mini line loks was not productive.

    Thanks.
    Here's one: http://www.zpacks.com/accessories/spectra_cord.shtml (scroll down for two types)

    Seems I've seen them at other HF vendor sites as well; cannot remember the others at the moment.
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    Hmm one of those 'now why didnt I think of that' moments. Good system!
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    This is the tarp suspension system I have been looking for, no more fiddling with knots in 20 degree weather. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ^shane^ View Post
    I'm an old Boy Scout and I know my knots. I also know that when weather is coming, or it's just plain cold, I want quick and secure over knots.

    Instead of going the bowline to tarp and taut-line hitch to stake route, I wanted something that would be easier (hard to accomplish) and would be faster (hard to accomplish).

    I've got Spinn tarps so stretch really isn't a factor, but I did want to incorporate some sort of "shock absorber" at each guy point to allow a little movement and give when the tarp is hit by big wind gusts (Texas weather of course).

    I'd seen some of the self tensioning guy lines using the sling-shot tubing at the TX hang. Those work for tensioning, but to adjust you have to pull up the stake and replace it. That option was out.

    I was intrigued by the mini line-loks being sold at the hammockforums store. I'd looked at the instructions for them, and didn't see an application I was trying to get, but they were cheap, so I bought 8 pair (4 pair per tarp). It took about 5 minutes playing around with the line-loks to figure out how to string them to get the application I was shooting for.

    So... I put the guy line system together. Guys at the 4 tarp corners are 6' long. Guys at the 4 panel pull outs are 12' long.


    1. I started with a 13" long piece of 3/32" shock cord.
    2. I fed one end of the shock cord through one of the holes in the line-lok, then closed the loop with a fisherman's knot.
    3. I fashioned the locked brummel loop in one end of zing-it.
    4. I fed the other end of the zing it through the line-lok in a manner to be able to pull for tension or lift to release the cam.
    5. I finished the other end of the guy line with a small back splice to prevent that end from working back out of the line-lok.
    6. Larks head the shock-cord loop to the tarp pull out ring.

    To use the guy line:

    1. Hang your tarp.
    2. Place stake in the ground.
    3. Place guy line loop around the stake.
    4. Pull on loose end of guy line until shock cord loop begins to stretch (I stop pulling when I get about 1" of stretch in the loop).
    5. DONE.

    To loosen the guy line:

    1. Lift up on the loose end of the guy line.

    Here's a small video of the system in use:


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    I like the triangle thingies i have those on my tarp and i love them.

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    It appears that the line-locs are back in the HF store...WooooHoooo.....RR
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    Cool My take for cubin tarps

    Hey all I just switched my line locks over! But instead of using bungee to hook it to my pull outs I spliced a continuous loop onto the line lock for use with a Cubin Fiber tarp. Works great!
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    I have these on my SF. Had it hung today, with a lot of wind. I noticed that two of my guylines were loose, so I tightened them and watched as one slid back. Guess the little teeth on the line loc is worn just enough to not hold. Tied a taught line hitch to keep it tight until I took it down. Luckly I had an extra line loc, so it has been replaced. It would still hold as long as I didn't have a lot of tension on the line. Kind of defeats the purpose. I have these on my Tadpole, and have not had any issues. Maybe it is just a defective lock......RR
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