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    Attaching a WS to webbing?

    Hey,

    I have webbing lengths with stitched loops on one end. I use the loops with biners around the trees. The other end is plain. Rather than using a marlen spike hitch I'd like to permanently attach it to my whoopie sling, as on the other end of the sling I have another biner which is my connection point between hammock and suspension. I like the ability to pack my suspension seperately.

    Would an over hand knot in the webbing & larksheading the whoopie sling through be safe? I don't have access to a sowing machine so stitching another loop isn't really an option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highbinder View Post
    Hey,

    I have webbing lengths with stitched loops on one end. I use the loops with biners around the trees. The other end is plain. Rather than using a marlen spike hitch I'd like to permanently attach it to my whoopie sling, as on the other end of the sling I have another biner which is my connection point between hammock and suspension. I like the ability to pack my suspension seperately.

    Would an over hand knot in the webbing & larksheading the whoopie sling through be safe? I don't have access to a sowing machine so stitching another loop isn't really an option.

    What'd'ya'think'chaps?
    You would not want to larks head the whoopie sling because then you would lose adjustability. Make a loop in the end of the webbing with a water knot, but put the adjustable loop of the WS inside that loop.

    I use a similar system to put loops in my webbing.
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    Do you know what your webbing is rated to? An overhand knot will reduce the breaking strain by about a half. I'm sure a figure of eight will be slightly stronger and definitely easier to undo if needed.

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    Water knot looks interesting, I'll have a play around with that one.

    turnerminator, I actually meant to write figure8 loop The webbing is from AHE and IIRC load tested to 1000lb. Any idea how badly a figure 8 decreases the load rating?

    A bit of google-fu turned up a double bowline but I'm unsure if it'd work with webbing and its advantage over a figure 8 isn't really applicable for hammocking. Wonder what else I could use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCINMA View Post
    You would not want to larks head the whoopie sling because then you would lose adjustability. Make a loop in the end of the webbing with a water knot, but put the adjustable loop of the WS inside that loop.

    I use a similar system to put loops in my webbing.
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    Hmmm..... Looks familiar...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSawyer View Post
    Hmmm..... Looks familiar...
    Yes sir, I am much obliged.

    While trying to figure the suspension problem for myself, I did research on the best knot for webbing, and while I didn't save the source, I did some across a scientific journal article that concluded that the water knot is the best holding knot you can put in webbing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Highbinder View Post
    Hey,

    I have webbing lengths with stitched loops on one end. I use the loops with biners around the trees. The other end is plain. Rather than using a marlen spike hitch I'd like to permanently attach it to my whoopie sling, as on the other end of the sling I have another biner which is my connection point between hammock and suspension. I like the ability to pack my suspension seperately.

    Would an over hand knot in the webbing & larksheading the whoopie sling through be safe? I don't have access to a sowing machine so stitching another loop isn't really an option.

    What'd'ya'think'chaps?
    If you are going to use a loop on the webbing, the water knot loop is the best way to go.

    If you have your whoopie loop at the hammock end then you will want a more permanent attachment on the webbing. In this case you can use a water knot on the webbing and a a fisherman's bend to attach the whoopie; this will be very secure but may never come undone once loaded. An alternative would be to just use a double sheetbend to bend the webbing and whoopie. Doing it this way means the tree strap is always attached to the whoopie so you can't leave it behind; but the adjustment may be outside the tarp.

    If I used whoopies this is how I would do it; solidly attached to the tree strap webbing and my adjustments loop attached to the hammock. As it is I use the UCR and both ends are attached solidly; but I have a tendency to loose stuff fairly easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCINMA View Post
    Yes sir, I am much obliged.

    While trying to figure the suspension problem for myself, I did research on the best knot for webbing, and while I didn't save the source, I did some across a scientific journal article that concluded that the water knot is the best holding knot you can put in webbing.
    A water knot was always the preferred knot for webbing in the climbing world.
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    Well Actually, what I did, (ok try and follow me) Was Invert the woopie sling so the adjustable end is connected to a continious loop which is attached to the hammock. Use a Dutch Biner to connect Woopie and Hammock. Larks head the dead eye through the webbing strap. and their ya go.
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