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    Brings up an adjoining thought....maybe for those who are frequently using straps or whoopies consider yearly replacement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MedicineMan View Post
    Brings up an adjoining thought....maybe for those who are frequently using straps or whoopies consider yearly replacement.
    I hope this is not too off topic from the OP concern with DC's and straps.
    For those thinking of going back to a biner. I have experienced premature whoopie wear with only 3 nites if use in the backyard. I think this wear would also occur if you were using more permanent rings or hooks.



    When I removed my whoopie from this biner and inspected the whoopies where it wrapped around the biner I noticed the amsteel weave was flattened and small fibers were damaged. I have since gone to the marlin spike to spread the load.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GvilleDave View Post
    I am setting the DC on the side of the tree, not the center.
    Which side? Think of the DC as a pulley. You know that a properly-positioned pulley can double the weight (pull) you can put on a rope (webbing), right? The proper position for a pulley would be the exact wrong position for a DC (I think). Physics play a major role in proper rigging, or maybe I should say in wrong rigging.

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    Of the three nights I stayed at Linville back in October, the first was extremely windy. The wind was coming in waves, and sounded like a jet approaching. I was hanging between two hardwood trees about 8" in diameter on the downwind side of the slope. The tree tops were going in all directions and the hammock was moving up and down and actually dropping suddenly at times. The second night was fairly calm, and the third night was windy again, but not like the first.

    I was using Paul's camo webbing with dutch clips, properly attached at the side of the tree where the webbing leaves toward the hammock. I found no visible abrasion at all, and just rechecked the webbing yesterday. I "think" (can't remember) I did polish my clips some with emery cloth when I first received them. I would be looking at the edges of the clips very closely.

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    Thanks for all of the suggestions! I will be replacing the straps and polishing the edges on my DC. I will also adjust the position and orientation of the DC when I hang to see if those changes make a difference in the wear I experience this time.

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    I'm with Ken and OutandBack - I'd CAREFULLY use a small file or emery paper to break the edges of the Dutch Clips. If you round those edges over I bet you won't see much, or any, more damage to your straps.


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    Why not go like this. Would save you some weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlazeAway View Post
    Why not go like this? Would save you some weight.
    Beats me. I think sometimes it's a matter of not seeing the forest for the trees. I have Dutch Clips, but rarely have found a situation where "more complicated" worked better than "more simple" as per your photo.

    But it's definitely "hike your own hike" when it comes to gear and gimmicks, so I'm not criticizing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlazeAway View Post
    Why not go like this. Would save you some weight.
    I don't use that method because it means I have to disconnect my suspension every time I setup and take down. As it stands, I just wrap, connect, tighten. It's quicker and easier for me, but you're absolutely right about saving weight. Just one of those many times where I'm willing to trade grams for my lazy-streak.
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    Yes I agree, DC will save you time. About 10 seconds.
    But then again it is a nice piece of gear.
    Like the toggles which I carry in my pack, even though I could use a wooden stick found on the trail.
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