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    Stiff Spectra

    Hey - I've noticed that the garda hitch only holds on stiff cord that I've used. It was fine with the spectra from my HH BULA and the other stiff spectra I have, but the BPL Air Core slipped. Now I need more cord...I'm looking for something like the HH BULA stuff but it's hard to tell from online descriptions whether it's the stiff spectra or just the flexible spectra core stuff. Have y'all ordered something similar to the stiff kind I'm talking about? (Or can you really understand what I'm saying by "stiff?")

    I know there are a gazillion threads out there on all the different kinds of cords...didn't see any that directly address this question, though.
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    Garda hitch equals girth hitch? If so, double it and make it a prussik and it might hold. On climbing ropes the prussik cord should be half to no more than two-thirds the diameter of the rope it is tied to.

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    (Garda is not the same as a girth hitch). Jeff, I've noticed that the garda holds better with biners, specifically the fish hook shaped ones, I think its the tighter radius that helps. So with rings and spyderline which is what I use, its important to make sure the knot is dressed right, don't let the second loop slip back over the first one, otherwise when your get in you can get that slow sag as the garda slips. Of course you can always throw a half hitch after you get it adjusted (like the people here talk about doing with webbing and rings).

    You probably already know this, but if your use just one ring, the munter mule hitch also works well, the only thing is you lose about a half inch of tension when the knot flips around when its loaded (when you get in the hammock).

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    I have been looking for the elusive HH ULBA stiff Spectra for a while. I even contacted HH, but I never got a reply. I love that stuff, but all I have had to use is what I salvaged from my HH when I went to webbing. My ring buckle supports are made from the stiff HH stuff, and it's my favorite set.

    I would be interested in finding a source.
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    the covered spectra is alot stiffer than the uncovered single braid spectra.

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    I got 2.8 spiderline from Annapolis at 1200lb tensile strength. Its pretty stiff. They had bigger and I would imagine its stiffer still. The 2.8 isn't as stiff as my HH spectra but it is thinner.
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    Jazilla - can you give me a link? "Spiderline" isn't bringing anything up in the aps search. I even did a google site: search and nothing came back. Thanks.
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    http://www.apsltd.com/Tree/d279000/e276768.asp

    Spyderline

    I am trying the paraloc on this site. It is supposed to have zero sheath slippage. I will update when I get it next week

    http://www.apsltd.com/Tree/d279000/e277765.asp Paraloc cord info. Looks like it will be good for the garda hitch.
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    I got some extremely stiff 2mm spectra at Sunrift Adventures last week. 5 cents per foot, I think. Just call them and they'll mail it to you.

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