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    UL cord question/noobish ?'s

    I'm going to do some tie-out work on my hammock and tarp (when it comes in). Looking for the lightest stuff out there. I *think* I'm down to zing-it or kelty trip tease. My question(s) is/are, who stocks it/has best selection and am I looking at the best options for UL cord for simple tie-outs?

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    Before making your choice, you need a well defined end use in mind. They're two very different cords.

    ZingIt is a single braid, which means it can be easily spliced. That's a good thing, because it's slick stuff, and doesn't hold knots very well.

    TripTease is made up of a Spectra core and an overlying sheath of ?...it is not spliceable, but holds knots well. Speer No Tangle is similar, and is not quite as prone to snarls.
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    I have some of both coming, plan to use the Tripteese as tarp tie outs, as well as tie outs on a tent I still use sometimes. Plan to use the lash-it for tarp ridge line. Got the lash-it from Redding Marine and the Triptease from Amazon.
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    excellent info!

    I'm not really interested in splicing - I don't think. This cord is simply for tying out my tarp pull-outs and the aux pull-outs on my light hiker. gonna ditch a lot of the stock shock cord that came on the hammock and replace over 2/3's of it with UL cord. The Kelty stuff looks like a winner.

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    Kelty Triptease - 1 oz/50ft = 2 oz/100ft
    Speer No Tangle - 1.8 oz/100ft
    Zing-It/Lash-It - .12lb/100ft = 1.92oz/100ft
    Dynaglide - .1 lb/100ft = 1.6 oz/100ft

    If you are truly talking about UL, the Triptease is the heaviest option. Dynaglide is the lightest (strangely enough, considering you can hang off it too).

    I use 1.5 mm accessory cordage as a triple or quadruple wrap prussik on Dynaglide pullout lines. Works like a charm and is evidently the lightest option (mason line or 1.5 mil cord may be lighter [couldn't find much info about weights] but too tangly for my liking anyway to be used as full tieouts).
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    Dynaglide is the lightest, strongest and is also spliceable. Splicing seems intimidating but really is easy and fun. Allows you you build very cool things with a very clean finish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bat View Post
    Dynaglide is the lightest, strongest and is also spliceable. Splicing seems intimidating but really is easy and fun. Allows you you build very cool things with a very clean finish.
    You've got me thinking. Could I make whoopie type tensioners for my tarp pullouts and such? Fixed eye on one end for larks head ties and whoopie on the other end for infinite adjustment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrTiles View Post
    You've got me thinking. Could I make whoopie type tensioners for my tarp pullouts and such? Fixed eye on one end for larks head ties and whoopie on the other end for infinite adjustment?
    You could, but it would not be the best choice. Whoopies are difficult to adjust when under tension.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgringo View Post
    You could, but it would not be the best choice. Whoopies are difficult to adjust when under tension.
    Agreed. Tried a whoopie tarp ridgeline and that didn't last long too long when I realized that I couldn't get a tight pitch.

    If you are looking for infinite adjustability, splice both ends of your guyline to make dead eyes. Tie a small piece of accessory cordage (any cordage with a smaller girth than your actual guy line) to the tieout on the tarp and prussik the accessory cord to the guy line. You can now move the entire length of guyline up and down to achieve the infinite adjustability you mentioned.

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    Splicability is a good option IMO. I put locked brummels on all the stake ends and buried the tarp end with continuous loops prussic onto that end. I just larksheaded the cintinuous loop on the tie outs. Talk about neat and tidy. I dig it. My two cents ifn ya wanna try it.
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