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    Senior Member thecrumb's Avatar
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    I've got

    * SBPro
    * 10x10 tarp (forgot which one )
    * KAQ UQ
    * Cheap 40 degree mummy bag
    * A BIG water proof bag

    Would go with UQ any day over a pad if you can afford it. I can get my hammock, sleeping bag, tarp and UQ all in one side bag on my bike with room left over.

    I have big waterproof kayak bag - riding I stuff my cloths, etc in it. At night I stuff my Aerostich/boots in it. Nothing worse than waking up in the AM to a dew soaked riding suit.

    Another idea which I'm going to add to the mix this summer is another tarp.

    I've done a few trips where it rained heavily and it would nice after a long day in the rain to pop a tarp over picnic table / bike... with all my gear, bags, etc the room under/in my hammock shrinks quickly.

    Have fun (and watch out for the #@$#@$#$ deer!)

    Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamD View Post
    UQ is lighter
    I don't think an UQ is lighter, I guess it depends on what size you get. The big advantage of an UQ for me is much less bulk. Even though I mainly car camp, I still don't like bulk. Also, an UQ has much less fiddle factor, IMO. YMMV

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    Senior Member thecrumb's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisH View Post
    The big advantage of an UQ for me is much less bulk.
    Agree! I actually did the Miguel solution my first trip. Froze my a$$ off the first night. Luckily there was a Wally World close to my route. Picked up a pad and was more comfortable the rest of the trip. But my hammock is single layer and fiddling with the pad was a pain.

    UQ is smaller, warmer (adjustable really) and less bulky. Best $$$ I've spent - and I'm cheap.

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    Senior Member Law Dawg (ret)'s Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by hohead View Post
    Question:
    - Stuffing a CCF pad in the Double Layer hammock seems like a fantastic solution. So why do people still prefer an Underquilt over this?
    The UQ is simply more comfortable and warmer to me. I hated the constant adjustment of the CCF pads etc (yes between the dbl layers), they still left cold spots, and just ruined the feel IMO. It is all about space budgets in your luggage. I'll give up much other stuff to be able to sleep comfortable. Even carry a ground tarp and pad extra just in case though a Motel will probably be my backup instead. Frankly I'll be willing to stop early for a good hang spot or ride longer to avoid (shudder) going to ground.

    Pads work for many so YMMV but to me the UQ is worth the freight.
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    Senior Member thecrumb's Avatar
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    Pad was warm but constantly shifting/adjusting, and if it WAS slightly warm when I went to bed I found the pad hot. It also detracted a bit from the comfort of the hammock IMO - instead of being cocooned in the hammock you had this pad in the way.

    With my UQ I hang it loose, fall asleep and IF I wake up chilly I simply cinch the UQ up and I'm done. And the UQ is for the most part transparent when I'm in the hammock.

    Jim

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    Dang the pads, but most still carry them. Sit pads, additional insulation, pack frames, padding, and of course, going to ground.

    Cuss em, then spend the money on the UQ for warmth and compression, but the UQ only keeps your backside cozy in the air. You'll still take the pad or an abbreviated version anyway, because it has the multi-use factor.

    For most I wouldn't consider it an either or question.

    Unless you exclusively car camp, or plan on bailing to a motel as first alternative, get use to the concept of carrying them both
    This place you say your lookin' for
    It might have washed out with the rain
    Might not be there anymore
    Might not be the same

    Top that rise and face the pain

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    Ok, you've convinced me to get an UQ.

    What about a top quilt? How annoying is it to instead use a mummy sleeping bag as a top quilt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hohead View Post
    Ok, you've convinced me to get an UQ.

    What about a top quilt? How annoying is it to instead use a mummy sleeping bag as a top quilt?
    Quote Originally Posted by hohead View Post
    - recommendation for a compact sleeping bag I should get.
    You've got no sleeping bag? By all means get a TQ. Here is where I was drooling today...

    http://www.jacksrbetter.com/Rectangular%20Quilts.htm
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    I've been happy with my cheap mummy bag I bought. For the temps I usually camp in - it's been fine. In the summer I usually bed down in shorts/tshirt. The cooler it gets the more I layer up. If it's cool I usually also pack a small fleece throw which I'll toss in the hammock as well.

    The one mod I made to my bag was to sew the zipper about 1/3 of the way zipped up. I found when I toss around at night the bag would become unzipped With it sewed I get in the hammock - stick my feet in the bag and I'm good to go.

    Jim

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    i justt got a cabela's sale paper yesterday. a eureka chhrysalis hammock on sale for $99.99 and a down bag at $159. i take my trips on a bandit 1250 with hard bags and a waterproof carry duffel. my tarp is 16' which is way too big but works. a tarp is a necessity though. i made my own double layer hammock for $10, put a wally world blue pad between the layers. slept comfortable with no issues. used a mummy bag. i desperately needed a pillow was my only complaint. also think a small soft cooler to pack for the evening after the ride. if using a GPS, also carry a map because the gps will get lost--a lot! small cheap carabeaners are great for hanging gear under the tarp on the ridgeline. a flattened beer can will work to keep your side stand from sinking on soft ground.

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