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    Gargoyle, I am exited. I want to see pics and measurements

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    So Jeff, your design would also work with shock cord on one side and just attach the bugnet to a zing-it ridgeline on the other. This only is acceptable if one was willing to limit the exit to one side only. That would save some weight since 1/8" shock cord weighs about 5 times what 1.75mm zing-it weighs.
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    I'd like to go back to the one shockcord with flap idea for a second.

    The main difficulty is keeping the flap outside the shockcord after getting in or out. What if the flap were curved and edged with gross grain? Like this:

    bug_envelope.png

    Black bars on the sides are omni tape so it would stay down and be removable. I think the concept would also work with a sewn on bugnet. Thoughts?

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    Matto,

    I think Shoreborns idea of tucking the flap under a ribbon of elastic or of grossgrain has the benefit of egress from either side.
    The down side is there is some set up each time you enter or exit.
    You have to re-tuck.

    I think your design will work.
    I plan on putting a shoe in a pocket on each end of the flap.
    You can technically exit either side, but you have the shoe weighing the flap down.

    Omni tape may be the answer

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    Right. Re-tucking the entire flap every time seems like a hassle to me. My idea only would only work on the one side but I can live with that. HYOBN, I guess.

    Weights on the ends would probably work too. The idea is just to have a small amount of tension along the front edge of the flap so the shockcord is guided back under.

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    Some pics.
    As mentioned this net was made for a short hammock. So for the pics I shortened one of mine. Principle still applies and you would custom fit a sock for your hammock.

    Slid over the hammock, ties on to the hammock suspension. Elastic bands create the net's ridgeline. The flap is draped off the backside in this pic. The ties are just simple lengths of netting about an inch wide x 8" long. Practical use of some scrap netting. String would work.
    Bug net from Taiwan 002.jpg

    Small gap at the top.
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    The flap stretched over.
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    The flap fully lays across the hammock.
    Bug net from Taiwan 005.jpg

    The elastic stretches for entry/exit. As long as I enter the near side, the flap does not drag on the ground.
    Bug net from Taiwan 006.jpg

    This netting is mosquito netting, and I would not call it nanoseeum. It has larger holes which may allow smaller bugs in.

    Overall, it works. Needs to be sized right to fit a "typical" hammock.
    3 panels of 36" wide fabric, hemmed and elastic encased within the two ridgeline hems. Then joined on the long edges. 90" ridgeline in these pics. I can stretch it more, and it does barely fit a 100" ridgeline, just snug and feared it may rip.
    I like Hangnout's design better. But if you want removeable netting, heres a possible solution.
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    OK - Maybe I'm just Dense....

    Hammock Length (from gathered knot to gathered knot) 133"
    Ridgeline (adjustable but set here) 106"

    I hung a string of amsteel at 106" end-to-end then traced the pattern. This makes the outside perimeter of the arc 133".

    Now I take this arc and sew the flat 106" side to the 133" side of the hammock.

    This leaves 13.5 inches from the end of the bug netting to the knot of the gather. It also seems to give you 54" of folds in the bug netting since that end is 133" long and now you are 13.5 inches inside each end.

    Am I wrong here??? I can cut & sew and do it by Trial & Error but I feel like this is going to make a very baggy & wasteful bug net.

    Please enlighten/correct me before I start cutting!

    Thanks, FH

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    Quote Originally Posted by FontanaHorseman View Post
    OK - Maybe I'm just Dense....

    Hammock Length (from gathered knot to gathered knot) 133"
    Ridgeline (adjustable but set here) 106"

    I hung a string of amsteel at 106" end-to-end then traced the pattern. This makes the outside perimeter of the arc 133".

    Now I take this arc and sew the flat 106" side to the 133" side of the hammock.

    This leaves 13.5 inches from the end of the bug netting to the knot of the gather. It also seems to give you 54" of folds in the bug netting since that end is 133" long and now you are 13.5 inches inside each end.

    Am I wrong here??? I can cut & sew and do it by Trial & Error but I feel like this is going to make a very baggy & wasteful bug net.

    Please enlighten/correct me before I start cutting!

    Thanks, FH
    You are on the wrong track

    You are not going to use the arc formed by the ridgeline and hammock length. You just need the measurement of the depth of this arc.

    The minimum arc depth of your bugnet will be the same as the one above but with a base (straight side) of 133" (not 106"). This allows the bugnet to pull all the way down. I would add some more depth and shaping as described in the video in this thread.
    Last edited by hangnout; 03-28-2011 at 23:29.

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    The lightbulb goes off!!!

    I have been beating my head against the wall on this one trying to figure it out and now it makes sense.

    Has anyone sewn the edges of the first 12" of the top & bottom of the hammock together (kind of making a tube at each end) then attaching th bugnet from there? That seems to roll up anyway and you could save some bugnet and weight doing this.....just an idea that I may try but I hate to waste bugnet if someone has tried it and it doesn't work that saves me time & net.

    Thanks for pointing me in the right direction! Paper for a new attern is cheap, bugnet is not.

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    Could you decide to make the depth lower? Say 28" instead of 34"???

    What would that do?

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