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    Senior Member FanaticFringer's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by furtigan View Post
    Yes, I'm planning on the pad and Nest both. I have not been able to test this in appropriate weather b/c of my location. (I will be doing a 4-day shakedown in NC starting next week.)

    Does anyone else think this is too much?


    Very useful feedback -- keep it coming.
    Not too much. Take both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by furtigan View Post
    I'm starting out ~3/14. This is my spring kit; things will change as the weather warms up. A few of the weights may be a bit off; a couple of things are still coming in the mail or not bought yet. I'm not looking to count grams here, so much as make sure I'm not missing something obvious or taking something that's a waste.


    Item Weight (oz)
    Shelter & Sleep
    Treklite Doublenest 20
    JRB NoSniveller incl stuff sack 23
    JRB Nest incl stuff sack 21
    suspension 2
    (ENO bug net added in summer)
    CCF sleeping pad, incl wings 20
    MacCat deluxe tarp 13
    Straps 3
    lines 8
    stakes 1

    Food & water
    spork 0.5
    Camelbak empty 8
    water bottles 2
    Jetboil PCS incl fuel 22
    Aquamira 2
    Bearbag and line 2

    Hygeine & Health
    Campsuds 2
    burt's shampoo bar 2
    TP 2
    Body glide 4
    Bug dope in summer
    FA kit 10
    poison ivy soap
    antibiotic ointment
    bandaids
    moleskin
    razor
    iburofin
    pepto tabs
    claratin
    imodium
    oxycodone
    cough drops
    small Ace bandage
    safety pins

    Misc
    Lighter 2
    vaselined cotton balls (thanks, cannibal) 2
    multitool 2
    maps 8
    companion/data book 4
    Money/credit cards/ID 2
    headlamp/batteries 4
    camera 5
    paperback book 8
    notebook & pencils 8
    MP3 player 2
    Spare batteries 4
    Bearbag and line 2
    Stuffsacks 1
    2 Bandanas 2
    JustJeff pack cover 3

    Clothes in pack
    Stuff sack for clothes 2
    spare T shirt 3
    2 spare compression shorts 6
    spare socks 4
    spare sock liners 2
    sleeping socks 3
    Thermal jammies 12
    Balaclava 4
    Frogg Toggs (camp clothes over jammies) 16
    mesh ballcap (for rain) 3
    crocs 6

    Gear in Pack weight 281

    Pack
    Atmos 50 51

    Total Base Weight 332

    Consumables
    Water (2.5 L) 40
    Food (32 per day *5 day) 160

    Total Pack Weight 532 (33.3 lb)

    Worn/carried
    Boots 52
    Poles 16
    Tshirt 6
    Insulated top 8
    fleece 22
    Compression shorts 3
    socks 3
    sock liners 2
    zip-off pants 22
    Gloves 2
    insulated ear band 2
    Sunglasses 2

    Skin Out 674 (42 lbs)


    A few questions:

    -- I haven't bought the Atmos yet -- any thoughts on that vs. a ULA catalyst?

    -- I listed wearing an insulated top, a t-shirt, and a fleece -- is that overkill (considering that I could use my PJs & raingear in a real emergency?)
    sounds pretty heavy to me dude neo
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    Quote Originally Posted by furtigan View Post
    Yes, I'm planning on the pad and Nest both. I have not been able to test this in appropriate weather b/c of my location. (I will be doing a 4-day shakedown in NC starting next week.)

    Does anyone else think this is too much?


    Very useful feedback -- keep it coming.
    Just for me, that would be too much. But I don't live in Florida either. In my opinion, don't skimp on insulation. If you find you don't need it, send it home. If you don't have it and realize you need it, it's too late. I asked if you had tested it because you do live in Florida. So I was curious if you were just being safe. Also, learn from mistakes made by the NOBOs last year. I heard that quite a few sent some cold weather gear home early because it was so warm. Then April came and they froze. So don't use Neel's Gap as a judge of what cold weather gear to send home. It may only be 30* up to that point, and you don't need the pad. Then when you get in the Smokies it could drop to single digits one night and you will wish you didn't send the pad home at Neel's Gap. That's just how I am doing it this year.

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    Is the UQ + Pad too much? For me, yes, for some, no.

    If you consider yourself a moderate or warm sleeper, then I would take a thin pad (ie: GossamerGear) to add if needed. It will serve as a frame for your pack, too. Packs much smaller and lighter, too.
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    Is your hammock a top loader? If so, and if you have not yet bought all of your gear, have you considered a Speer PeaPod , without a pad, ( or maybe a JRB Katahdin) and a lighter weight top quilt? Unless you need a pad for ground backup, in which case you could carry a 3/4 length ccf pad, or the 10 oz BMW inflatable.

    Or, if you are planning on sleeping on the pads most nights anyway, have you considered just adding more pads and going pad only? Either aproach could save you some weight.
    Last edited by BillyBob58; 01-21-2008 at 22:01.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBob58 View Post
    Is your hammock a top loader? If so, and if you have not yet bought all of your gear, have you considered a Speer PeaPod , without a pad, ( or maybe a JRB Katahdin) and a lighter weight top quilt? Unless you need a pad for ground backup, in which case you could carry a 3/4 length ccf pad, or the 10 oz BMW inflatable.

    Or, if you are planning on sleeping on the pads most nights anyway, have you considered just adding more pads and going pad only? Either aproach could save you some weight.
    The peapod is too constricting for me.

    I didn't see the JRB article on the temp rating of their stuff until tonight. If I had, I might have gone with a Katahdin over the Nest. As it is, though, I have already bought my sleep kit and am committed to what I have. Worst-case scenario, I end up going to ground/shelter a few nights, sleeping on the CCF with both quilts over. I can live with that.
    Last edited by furtigan; 01-21-2008 at 22:46.

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    Quote Originally Posted by furtigan View Post
    Ah -- forgot to add, I'll be putting duct tape on my poles.......
    I'd put the duct tape elsewhere, but definitely not on the poles. While it may be convenient, you have to swing the weight of the poles and the duct tape every step you take. Personally, I wrap several feet of the magic stuff around a tongue depressor or bamboo skewer and cut to just longer than the duct tape is wide. Works for me, hopefully for you too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooch View Post
    I'd put the duct tape elsewhere, but definitely not on the poles. While it may be convenient, you have to swing the weight of the poles and the duct tape every step you take. Personally, I wrap several feet of the magic stuff around a tongue depressor or bamboo skewer and cut to just longer than the duct tape is wide. Works for me, hopefully for you too.
    I still have the little bit I started with on my poles. I tried to use it once and it really didn't hold. If I carry it again I will try it on something else not exposed to the weather.

    Definitly take the insulation. It doesn't weigh that much. Also don't buy into the super ultra light stuff everyone will be talking about. The right weight is what you can pack comfortably. My base weight was the lightest when I started, and got heavier as I went from there.

    Something to think about too is at some hostels there is no mattresses. You will be staying on the floor. A pad is definitly needed on a thru in my opinion. Plus if you roll up on an empty shelter and it is pouring rain it is nice to stay in the dry shelter vs setting up the tarp in the rain.

    A thought on your pack is to have plenty of extra room when it is packed. That way when the hunger hits you have the room to carry the extra food. Also if you are cold you can pack out the cheap fleece for a cold snap. I am planning on making a new pack with my old frame. I think the perfect pack for me is 5500 ci, can comfortably carry 50+ lbs, yet only weighs 3.5 lbs. A little on the extreme side for most, but I think it will work under any condition I will be hiking in.
    Is that too much to ask? Girls with frikkin' lasers on their heads?
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    Looks Good!

    Quote Originally Posted by furtigan View Post
    ... This is my spring kit; things will change as the weather warms up. ... I'm not looking to count grams here, so much as make sure I'm not missing something obvious or taking something that's a waste. ...
    I say leave it as is! You've obviously put a lot of thought into this list.

    I say keep the padding, if you end up needing to hit the ground due to a cold snap it is a backup.

    I think all the clothes listed for hiking are a bit overkill, but they may come in handy for camptime.

    What about toothbrush/paste/dental floss?

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    I have one of the osprey atmos 65 and i can say that for me it is not comforable with over 25 pounds loaded in it the straps are thin for the breathable ability they have.

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