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    Quote Originally Posted by OutdoorJunkie1992 View Post
    Has anyone heard of sportchatlet.com? Is it a trusted site? They have a Cosmic 20 down on sale for $75 compared to $100 at campmor.com. Just wanna make sure its a trusted site before ordering. Her is the link for the bag.

    http://www.sportchalet.com/product/300270_3051594.do
    Yes, I would say it is a trusted site. Sport Chalet is an actual sports store like sports authority, big 5, dicks, ect.

    You should be fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by OutdoorJunkie1992 View Post
    Has anyone heard of sportchatlet.com? Is it a trusted site? They have a Cosmic 20 down on sale for $75 compared to $100 at campmor.com. Just wanna make sure its a trusted site before ordering. Her is the link for the bag.

    http://www.sportchalet.com/product/300270_3051594.do
    One thing though, this is a short and only fits up to 5'4"

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    I would believe that length, too. I have the standard size and it fits me (5'10") but doesn't work for my 6'1" friend.

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    Sports Chalet is a reputable company. We have one here Visalia and I am there weekly. I also have the Kelty Cosmic 20. Great bag for the price and it packs small. 9X9 in a compression sack 9x14 in its stuff sack 2.8lbs. I have the regular and it is a snug fit for me @ 6' 245lbs. But I like a snug fit. It is my first down bag and fit's my seasons well.
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    Should I get the 0 degree down for a four season bag/ TQ ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OutdoorJunkie1992 View Post
    Should I get the 0 degree down for a four season bag/ TQ ?
    It is all about your environment, That might get to hot for summer.
    It all comes down to what the weather is like in the area you will be hammocking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OutdoorJunkie1992 View Post
    Should I get the 0 degree down for a four season bag/ TQ ?
    I'm am firmly of the belief that the UQ is more important than the TQ with regards to warmth. I have only one bag, a Marmot Wind River 40* down semi rectangular. No hood, and I got it from Sierra Trading post about 6 years ago for $89. I have never even considered another sleeping bag, although I may make a top quilt because I like DIY, and it will be a little lighter.

    With that said, I have used this bag to less than 10 degrees, but I had a DIY full length UQ with 16oz of 900 Fill power down. I was toasty, and actually had to vent a little. I was in a medium weight fleece, light baselayer bottoms, and wool socks.

    In my opinion, you can get away with a 20 degree bag in Ohio year round, as long as you have good bottom insulation. You can always add a layer of clothing.

    Sorry for the hijack Torch. I have heard good things about the Cosmic, but if you are using it as a TQ only, you may want something hoodless, like this: http://www.sierratradingpost.com/mar...colorFamily=01

    That is basically a clone of my aforementioned "Wind River" bag, only the names have been changed to protect Marmot's marketing department.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OutdoorJunkie1992 View Post
    Should I get the 0 degree down for a four season bag/ TQ ?
    While this is yet untested, in THEORY, the unzipped mummy is wider than needed for a top quilt. I've shaken the down away from the zippers and rolled the 'emptied' zip sides toward the middle to increase loft while taking up unneeded width. Safety pins hold it there, and a narrower loftier top quilt is ready for use. The theory is the increased loft will improve the rating, but baffle height is a concern too. With a good underquilt a 20 degree mummy may be a 0-10 degree top quilt.

    Hopefully others who've tested this will add comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveJJ View Post
    While this is yet untested, in THEORY, the unzipped mummy is wider than needed for a top quilt. I've shaken the down away from the zippers and rolled the 'emptied' zip sides toward the middle to increase loft while taking up unneeded width. Safety pins hold it there, and a narrower loftier top quilt is ready for use. The theory is the increased loft will improve the rating, but baffle height is a concern too. With a good underquilt a 20 degree mummy may be a 0-10 degree top quilt.

    Hopefully others who've tested this will add comments.
    I'm definitely trying this, hadn't considered it before but I think it would definitely help me squeeze a few more degrees out of my 20* bag. Thanks Steve!

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    I used my Kelty Cosmic 20 bag this weekend, it packs ok and sleeps wonderful. At 5'9" I found it a little snugg, with a zipper on the side it is a little ruff getting into at first. At 39 degrees I was in my bag in my under close, warm.

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