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    Arrow toggle failure

    Well, I tried the cut aluminum arrow toggle option on my tree straps with whoopies goin to the blackbird. I used the proper marlin spike hitch method with the whoopie on the knot. Worked well for my 10 minute test until I pulled out the toggles to see both had collapsed. Just thought I'd informed people who want to try it to be sure to test it first. They definitely have a limit to them, i weigh 205. I'm stickin to my Petzl carabiners.

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    I have used arrow shafts toggles a few times with no issues. I'll have to keep a close eye. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taylo166 View Post
    Well, I tried the cut aluminum arrow toggle option on my tree straps with whoopies goin to the blackbird. I used the proper marlin spike hitch method with the whoopie on the knot. Worked well for my 10 minute test until I pulled out the toggles to see both had collapsed. Just thought I'd informed people who want to try it to be sure to test it first. They definitely have a limit to them, i weigh 205. I'm stickin to my Petzl carabiners.
    Did you contact Paul about this? I'm sure he would like to know, can we see pics as well. Ive used Paul's aluminum toggles before with marlin spike hitch with no problems and I weight the same as you. Makes me curious to know how this happened?
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    I should probably also mention that I wasn't hanging at the proper angle of 30 degrees due to my skimpy dogwood in the yard. I was more like 10 or 15 degrees. Maybe this was the cause.

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    These were homemade myself from one of my easton aluminum arrows. No pics cuz i trashed and cussed them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taylo166 View Post
    These were homemade myself from one of my easton aluminum arrows. No pics cuz i trashed and cussed them.
    Thanks for the clarification, ooppss, I thought you had ordered these from Paul at AHE so I was very surprised to hear of failure.
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    sounds to me like 2 things the first is what you stated the angle you were hanging at
    and the 2nd is that the WS was in contact with the toggle
    if your WS comes in contact with the toggle the toggle will fail
    the WS must be on the Marlin spike hitch knot

    i have used old stick no bigger then a pencil for my set already and i never had one break ... the key is to make sure the WS is not on the toggle
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    Pauls gear is the best, but I'm stickin to my Petzl Spirits. They hold no matter what. My toggles looked super cool too and were super light, so you can imagine my anger in wasting a hunting arrow.

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    that is why I went to the local archery shop and asked for a few of their 'cut-off' pieces..
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    Would have liked to see the set-up, as like many others I have used the same set for a couple years now with no issues!

    Many have reported failures, but it came from improperly placed whoopie slings or using a wood stick (trail found) toggle that was rotted!

    Do you know if the toggle was compromised to begin with, by this I mean the seam that runs the length of the shaft was this compromised in any way? As when you cut them if the toggle/shaft twisted and opened the seam and this could cause a failure (one of the ones I cut on my own did this)!
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