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    As soon as Jess has out little one and everything settles in, I'll be working troop 173 in Guntersville hehe. Plan to use hammock plans and suspension ideas, etc etc, and finding a place to integrate them into getting a badge, then setting the example with my gear and see how many convert. It makes it easier when you encourage them to make their own and use them. The sense of pride in using their own gear will hook em in no time.
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    Scouting and "Chemical Fuel" etc

    Guide to Safe Scouting has a little blurb about
    Chemical Fuel and Equipment Policy

    (April 12, 2010)

    With the 2010 Spring and Summer camping season now underway it is a great time to review the current policy on the Storage, Handling, and Use of Chemical Fuels and Equipment.

    Many campers are moving away from traditional outdoor campfires in favor of chemical-fueled equipment for cooking, heating, and lighting. However, chemical fuels and equipment create very different hazards than traditional wood, charcoal, and other solid fuels. Please take a moment and be up to date on our policies.

    Then it links to a larger one page PDF where is goes on specifically putting the homemade stoves, (Specifically mentions the can type) on the prohibited list .

    Prohibited Chemical-Fueled Equipment—Equipment
    that is handcrafted, homemade, modified, or installed
    beyond the manufacturer’s stated design limitations
    or use. Examples include alcohol-burning “can” stoves,
    smudge pots, improperly installed heaters, and propane
    burners with their regulators removed.


    A couple of paragraphs later and they list the "Not Reccomended" fuels.

    Chemical Fuels not Recommended—Unleaded gasoline;
    liquid alcohol fuels, including isopropyl alcohol, denatured
    ethyl alcohol, and ethanol; and other flammable
    chemicals that are not in accordance with the manufacturer’s
    instructions for chemical-fueled equipment.



    So I can use a stove with an explosive gas cannister or Sterno , but apparently my factory Trangia with HEET (Yellow Bottle) is against the rules?? Guess they don't know how many campers across Europe use alcohol stoves?


    They took away the BSA stamped sheath knives and small hatchets a while back.

    Too much CYA now.

    DKPerdue
    Last edited by dkperdue; 04-08-2011 at 15:07.

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    I am one of the ASM's in Troop 212, Chesapeake, VA
    Myself and another adult are hangers. The other guy is dual enrolled with the local Venture Crew as well.
    My son has been a hanger on other camping trips with me, but not on any Scout camping trips.

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    Proud ASM in Troop 354, Clovis, CA here. Presently I am the one hanging, but most are pretty impressed that the DIY hammock holds up to the stretch I put it through and every one of the youth finds their way to me when cooking in my modified combo penny wood/alky stove.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkperdue View Post
    So I can use a stove with an explosive gas cannister or Sterno , but apparently my factory Trangia with HEET (Yellow Bottle) is against the rules?? Guess they don't know how many campers across Europe use alcohol stoves?
    I don't read "not recommended" the same as "prohibited". They probably don't recommend camping near a hornest nest either, but it is not prohibited....

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    Under the prohibited, it specifically states:
    -- Examples include alcohol-burning “can” stoves
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    Yes it lists alcohol-burning "can" stoves as an example of "Equipment that is handcrafted, homemade, modified, or installed beyond the manufacturer’s stated design limitations".

    I still see a small opening through which commercial alcohol stoves (trangia, caldera, etc) can live within the rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by linuxhack View Post
    Yes it lists alcohol-burning "can" stoves as an example of "Equipment that is handcrafted, homemade, modified, or installed beyond the manufacturer’s stated design limitations".

    I still see a small opening through which commercial alcohol stoves (trangia, caldera, etc) can live within the rules.
    But, what are we to burn in our trangia's?

    I am an ASM with the troop, CC with the pack, the SM, myself, and one other leader use our trangia's. Guess our G2SS is dated... (like me)

    I am the only hanger as of now. Everyone looks, but...

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    ASM, Troop 92 Raymond, MS I have one other scout using a hammock most of the time, the scoutmaster leaning towards trying it and a good number of scouts interested. Only 16 scouts on role, and pretty young. I see more hangers in the future. They have only seen my setup in the woods once, but will see it many more times!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkyjim View Post
    But, what are we to burn in our trangia's?
    Whatever you want... since no fuels are prohibited.

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