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    Yeah that was my thought process too.

    Time wise I figure when I make things that my time is worth $10 an hour. If I am going to save a lot more than that I make it. If I am only going to have $2 pr 3 dollars an hour, I buy.
    Is that too much to ask? Girls with frikkin' lasers on their heads?
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    picture of phase one is up. It just shows the hemmed blank with the straps lain in place.

    I'd kind of like to see the buckles before I sew the straps down.

    I decided to run the straps all the way across the body instead of two separate for each level.
    That way, if the denim isn't strong enough it won't matter. The strapping will do all the work.

    Tom
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    Good start. How are you going to attach the shoulder straps?
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    The strap detail is still a bit of a mystery.

    It would appear you need double straps on the top, The main load bearers go down 2 inches below the nape of the neck and the others to the top of the pack to adjust the hang or set or whatever it's called. Right??

    The hip strap is a mystery also.

    I found directions to make a G4 Pack. I will probably sew them on like the pattern directs. I think I will sew on a reinforcement patch over that area.

    A question: Bar Tacking, per se, requires a serger or similar machine, right??

    I will have to sew on with a box and x plus a few straight passes, since I don't have that machine. My daughter has one, but it's an hour drive there, so I'll pass on theoption until/if I encounter problems.

    I plan to get the bundling straps on and complete before I worry about these parts.

    Tom
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    I don't think you'd want to attach shoulder straps or a hip belt using a bartack anyway. If you buy either of those - so I've recently discovered - they tend to have large reinforcement patches attached to them. I'd just use a single large box-type attachment or maybe several smaller concentric ones.

    As far as I know, any machine that has adjustable stitch width and length will do a bartack though. Just set the length really short and the width pretty wide, then go to it. That's what I've done, anyway.
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    live and learn. Thanks

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    Yep - a bartack is basically a zigzag stitch with a very small stitch length and a pretty wide stitch width. So if your machine can zigzag, you can do a bartack. But bartacks put lots of holes in the material and can weaken it a lot, so be careful using it on a loadbearing seam.
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    We're cooking now.

    My eBay buckles came in today.

    I took the easy way out and ordered a set of military pack straps and hip belt from the place that sells Neo's sleeping bags

    While I was at it. I ordered a sleeping bag too. The remark about cheap down source rang true with me. I wonder how much down you get in one?? anybody know the amount of fill in an M1949 Sleeping bag?

    Anyway, My sewing machine is calling me. Pictures to follow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teblum View Post
    The remark about cheap down source rang true with me. I wonder how much down you get in one?? anybody know the amount of fill in an M1949 Sleeping bag?
    The old military bag I have has feathers for fill, no down in it!

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    I have sewed on the "bundling straps" .

    http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery...images.php?c=4

    The pictures show the pack with a pad, two sleeping bags, a tarp and a bag liner for some bulk. I begin to see the need for ultralight. I may have to increase the strap length.

    The hammock, cooking gear, food and water still have to fit. one sleeping bag and the liner can come out.

    ay carumba!!!

    Tom

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