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    Quote Originally Posted by spidennis View Post
    Blackbird Amsteel knot failure:

    On the foot end of my Blackbird the Amsteel that connects to the suspension system had the knot slip and undo during a short nap.
    What knot was original to the Blackbird? And was it this original knot that slipped?? Or was this a knot that you'd tied there to connect the suspension??

    On a side note, I can tell you from experience that a bowline tied into the amsteel will not hold, so don't use that knot.

    I was under the impression that the knots in amsteel on the blackbird are double (maybe triple) fishermans knots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TinaLouise View Post
    What knot was original to the Blackbird? And was it this original knot that slipped?? Or was this a knot that you'd tied there to connect the suspension??

    On a side note, I can tell you from experience that a bowline tied into the amsteel will not hold, so don't use that knot.

    I was under the impression that the knots in amsteel on the blackbird are double (maybe triple) fishermans knots.

    TinaLouise
    What undid was the original knot but I don't know what it was/is.

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    If you must tie a loop at the end of a rope +1 on the surgeons loop.

    Continous loops are very easy.

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    i was under the same impression as tinalouise. i read that first post as it was warbonnet's knot that failed, not a modification by the OP. am i wrong?

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    I have had good luck with figure-8 knots or by making a byte at the end of the rope and doing a simple overhand knot with the doubled rope (can't remember the official name of the knot). I've used both extensively with dyneema with no problems.
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    i was tying a double fisherman's for a long time, but switched to the triple fisherman's for extra security. this is the first i've heard of one actually coming untied. if anyone is worried about it, just take a look and make sure there is still some tail left on your knot. if it looks like there's no tail left then let me know and i can send you a new set tied with a triple (what i've been using for over a year now)

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    Spend the weekend looking for some tail. Got it.
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    Is there any way to look at the knot and tell if it's a double or a triple??

    TinaLouise

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    3 loops i think. double has 2

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