Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 39
  1. #1
    Senior Member stoikurt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Panama City, FL
    Hammock
    Custom 1.7/1.1 WB Blackbird
    Tarp
    DIY SWT
    Insulation
    JRB Nest & DIY RMS
    Suspension
    Whoopee Slings
    Posts
    1,000
    Images
    83

    Wal-Mart Lottery

    Well, I finally hit the Wal-Mart Lottery last night. I've been checking the fabric dollar bin pretty regularly and have found some nice stuff. Recently I bought a bolt of nylon in a neat digital camo pattern. It's not ripstock but it's a pretty tight weave. I'm planning on making a hammock and tarp out of it, mostly just for the practice.

    Last night I checked and found a bolt of light gray silnylon. Of course I bought the whole bolt of 15 yards. It's only 48 inches wide and obviously factory seconds. Doing the blow through test I think it's about 98% waterproof. With a coating of silicon spray it should work pretty good.

    My plan with the other material, which is 60 inches wide, is to make a McCat style tarp with an 11 foot long ridge and 7-8 long foot sides. I wanted to make the sides 5 foot from ridge to edge, so I guess the original square dimensions would be 11X10. To do that with the narrower material I'd have to sew three strips of material together. But that would mean there would not be a seam along the ridge but would have seams about 2 feet down the sides from the ridge. Is this workable? Or do you need to have a seam at the ridge? Would a strip of grossgrain ribbon need to be sewn along the ridge to provide extra support if there was no ridge seam?
    Stoikurt
    "Work to Live...Don't Live to Work!"

  2. #2
    slowhike's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Winston-Salem, NC
    Hammock
    DIY, gathered end , w/ spreader
    Tarp
    DIY w/ pull-outs
    Insulation
    DAM/ HG Incubator
    Suspension
    Webbing & rings
    Posts
    10,595
    Images
    319
    if i had to guess, i`d say the gray stuff is rip stop w/ a DWR finish. if it`s like what i found there, it`s great for quilts, but i don`t know about spraying it w/ silicon & trusting it to be water proof.
    you didn`t say if the camo you plan to make a tarp out of has any treatment that can be seen.
    of course you said that you were just making a tarp for practice.
    don`t leave the CREATOR out of the creation!

  3. #3
    Peter_pan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    virginia
    Hammock
    JRB BMBH
    Tarp
    JRB 11x10 Cat Tarp
    Insulation
    JRB UQ of season
    Posts
    2,698
    Images
    2
    I'd put the seam on the ridgeline.

    Pan
    Ounces to Grams.

    www.jacksrbetter.com ... Largest supplier of camping quilts and under quilts...Home of the Original Nest Under Quilt, and Bear Mountain Bridge Hammock. 800 595 0413

  4. #4
    Senior Member stoikurt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Panama City, FL
    Hammock
    Custom 1.7/1.1 WB Blackbird
    Tarp
    DIY SWT
    Insulation
    JRB Nest & DIY RMS
    Suspension
    Whoopee Slings
    Posts
    1,000
    Images
    83
    Quote Originally Posted by slowhike View Post
    if i had to guess, i`d say the gray stuff is rip stop w/ a DWR finish. if it`s like what i found there, it`s great for quilts, but i don`t know about spraying it w/ silicon & trusting it to be water proof.
    you didn`t say if the camo you plan to make a tarp out of has any treatment that can be seen.
    of course you said that you were just making a tarp for practice.
    It very well may be DWR but still a great find. I think most tarps aren't 100% waterproof anyway unless they are true silnylon or coated with pvc or something similar. I don't think my Kelty Noah's Tarp is fully waterproof. The camo material was not coated and will probably make a better hammock than tarp. I did a quick test the other night of the two materials, as follows:

    1 square of the nylon camo material sprayed with the Coleman Water Repellent spray (if does not mention silicon on the can).
    1 square of the nylon camo sprayed with Camp Dry spray that contains silicon.
    1 square of the ripstop gray material with no further treatments added.

    Test 1: Sag the material over a glass, hold it in place with a rubber band and pour about a quarter cup of water on it and let it sit. After an hour no liquid dripped through any of the materials but the nylon with the Coleman spray had fibers that were becoming wet. The fibers in the other 2 remained dry.

    Test 2: Hold the material tightly over the glass and spray water on it at a 45 degree angle for 1 minute at the kitchen sink. Results: The Coleman treated fabric leaked pretty and had about a tablespoon of water in the glass. The Camp Dry (silicon) treatment had about a half teaspoon of water in the glass. The gray ripstop (probably DWR) only had a few drops of water in the glass.

    Conclusion: 1. Don't waste your money on the non-silicon spray water repellent. 2. The gray ripstop I have might work OK in most weather except for heavy or prolonged rain. 3. More testing is necessary for better results.
    Last edited by stoikurt; 12-14-2006 at 13:05.
    Stoikurt
    "Work to Live...Don't Live to Work!"

  5. #5
    Senior Member Just Jeff's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Charlottesville, VA
    Hammock
    Blackbird
    Tarp
    MacCat Standard
    Insulation
    Winter Yeti, MWUQ4
    Suspension
    Whoopie Slings
    Posts
    8,012
    Images
    32
    I have found both gray silnylon and gray DWR at Walmart. Usually the DWR, though.
    “Republics are created by the virtue, public spirit, and intelligence of the citizens. They fall when the wise are banished from the public councils because they dare to be honest, and the profligate are rewarded because they flatter the people, in order to betray them.” ~Judge Joseph Story

    - My site: http://www.tothewoods.net/
    - Designer, Jeff's Gear Hammock / Pack Cover by JRB

    IMPOSSIBLE JUST TAKES LONGER

  6. #6
    Senior Member Frolicking Dino's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Louisville, TN USA
    Posts
    422
    Images
    8
    A question - since silicone only sticks to silicone, couldn't you tell if a fabric was or wasn't silinylon by putting a gob of silicone on one corner? In theory, it should stick if it was sil-nylon and not stick if it is DWR treated.

  7. #7
    Senior Member Grinder's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    winter haven, florida
    Posts
    541
    Images
    19
    I just read on Whiteblaze that all walmarts are discontinuing the $1 bin.

    That matches my experience, in that, the bin at my "good Walmart" is gone and the clerk said it was cancelled.

    Oh Dear!! Where shall we turn for cheap material??

    Tom

  8. #8
    slowhike's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Winston-Salem, NC
    Hammock
    DIY, gathered end , w/ spreader
    Tarp
    DIY w/ pull-outs
    Insulation
    DAM/ HG Incubator
    Suspension
    Webbing & rings
    Posts
    10,595
    Images
    319
    man... that`s bad news.
    don`t leave the CREATOR out of the creation!

  9. #9
    Senior Member Grinder's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    winter haven, florida
    Posts
    541
    Images
    19
    I just went back and reread the white blaze post.

    It said the fabric DEPARTMENT (the whole thing)would be eliminated by March 2007.

    My walmart eliminated the $ bin during the last few weeks.

    Tom

  10. #10
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    New Orleans, LA
    Posts
    3,565
    Images
    57
    Quote Originally Posted by teblum View Post
    I just went back and reread the white blaze post.

    It said the fabric DEPARTMENT (the whole thing)would be eliminated by March 2007.

    My walmart eliminated the $ bin during the last few weeks.

    Tom
    Man I might have to go try to stock up. Although I did buy 15 yds last time.
    Is that too much to ask? Girls with frikkin' lasers on their heads?
    The hanger formly known as "hammock engineer".

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •