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    there can be only 1

    friends. i have a problem. despite the other 3 guys making them, there's really only 2 cuben tarps i'm considering (due to the other guys being too heavy or just terrible customer service).

    the 2 tarps that i'm looking at are:

    http://www.zpacks.com/shelter/hammock_tarps.shtml

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    http://www.hammockgear.com/cart/inde...products_id=21


    small, small differences...

    zpacks ridgeline is 2 inches longer.
    stormcrow's will be about .2oz lighter after seam sealing joe's
    stormcrow's slightly more expensive ($25 more)
    zpacks has much more long-term experience with cuben
    zpacks ridgeline is sewn and stormcrow's is glued
    stormcrow's wait period is shorter

    both businesses have earned my repeat business. both owners have humbly yielded a series of questions from me. there is no clear-cut front runner for me.

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    have you also looked into OES?
    Dale Gribble: I'm thinking, "new hammock." For me, laying and swaying in a hammock is like a steady morphine drip without the risk of renal failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewtonGT View Post
    have you also looked into OES?
    Don't think Brian is making cuben...unless you know something?


    That's a difficult decision. Based on your points, Zpacks seem to come out ahead by a hair IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
    Don't think Brian is making cuben...unless you know something?


    That's a difficult decision. Based on your points, Zpacks seem to come out ahead by a hair IMO.
    ive seen some OES cubens. I think its a custom order type deal
    Dale Gribble: I'm thinking, "new hammock." For me, laying and swaying in a hammock is like a steady morphine drip without the risk of renal failure.

    Randy : yea but just remember yer roots and where ya come from....you got Hennessy in yer blood son......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wags View Post

    zpacks ridgeline is 2 inches longer.
    stormcrow's will be about .2oz lighter after seam sealing joe's
    stormcrow's slightly more expensive ($25 more)
    zpacks has much more long-term experience with cuben
    zpacks ridgeline is sewn and stormcrow's is glued
    stormcrow's wait period is shorter
    if it were me, and taking into account i dont even know what cuben is aside from a really expensive/light/kinda thin material, this is how id break it down with that info:

    2" really isnt going to make that much difference at 1" an end BUT
    they have more experience and its sewed. those to me seem to be deciding factors that would make it worth the wait. as they say, anything good is worth waiting for...
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    The glued seam is preferable IMO.

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    If anyone knows its WV. I'd prefer a glued seam after all I've read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thexuprising View Post
    If anyone knows its WV. I'd prefer a glued seam after all I've read.
    Thanks, but I'm not quite that advanced. On reflection, this may be a case of two methods to do the same task, in which one may be better than the other, but both are perfectly adequate. I haven't heard any tales of sewn tarp seams failing, though rigorous tests could make them seem weaker. The seam sealing (depending on method) could add strength, I suppose, but it's another factor that needs to be done right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WV View Post
    Thanks, but I'm not quite that advanced. On reflection, this may be a case of two methods to do the same task, in which one may be better than the other, but both are perfectly adequate. I haven't heard any tales of sewn tarp seams failing, though rigorous tests could make them seem weaker. The seam sealing (depending on method) could add strength, I suppose, but it's another factor that needs to be done right.
    I think that WV has a point here. I have heard stories of cuben failing at punctures or things of that nature, but none failing at seams. One way may be better, but i think maybe the force exerted on the tarps is not enough for either method to fail? Both are great guys to deal with, and both stand behind their products. Flip a coin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WV View Post
    Thanks, but I'm not quite that advanced. On reflection, this may be a case of two methods to do the same task, in which one may be better than the other, but both are perfectly adequate. I haven't heard any tales of sewn tarp seams failing, though rigorous tests could make them seem weaker. The seam sealing (depending on method) could add strength, I suppose, but it's another factor that needs to be done right.
    I have a diy cuben tarp with sewn seams. It is 2+ years old and I have had no problems. At the time I made mine, the gluing process had not been perfected. There were stories of the glue not holding in really cold temps. This does not seem to be a problem with the improved methods. I would have to agree with WV that both are adequate. With the increased use of cuben tarps we will find out what works best after some age and use in a variety of enviroments.

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