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    glued seams for sure. I have stuff sacks with glued seems that I've pounded and punched over and over, and theyre still holding up great.

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    That is such a hard decision I'm just going to make my own. Actually Stormcrow would get my business, but Joe is a real good guy too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WV View Post
    Thanks, but I'm not quite that advanced. On reflection, this may be a case of two methods to do the same task, in which one may be better than the other, but both are perfectly adequate. I haven't heard any tales of sewn tarp seams failing, though rigorous tests could make them seem weaker. The seam sealing (depending on method) could add strength, I suppose, but it's another factor that needs to be done right.
    I think that WV has a point here. I have heard stories of cuben failing at punctures or things of that nature, but none failing at seams. One way may be better, but i think maybe the force exerted on the tarps is not enough for either method to fail? Both are great guys to deal with, and both stand behind their products. Flip a coin.
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    I haven't had any problems with my sewn ridgeline from Joe. I've put 7 nights or so under it this year so far and have had no problems. Seems strong enough for me but I can see how someone would want a taped ridgeline.

    If I have any problem it is the **** tarp is too big. Don't forget to take into account how many stakes it requires to pitch it correctly. When you start to factor in that weight there is some difference in designs out there. That said I then my Z Dreamer is all of 11oz with stakes and ridgeline for more coverage than I would ever need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WV View Post
    Thanks, but I'm not quite that advanced. On reflection, this may be a case of two methods to do the same task, in which one may be better than the other, but both are perfectly adequate. I haven't heard any tales of sewn tarp seams failing, though rigorous tests could make them seem weaker. The seam sealing (depending on method) could add strength, I suppose, but it's another factor that needs to be done right.
    I have a diy cuben tarp with sewn seams. It is 2+ years old and I have had no problems. At the time I made mine, the gluing process had not been perfected. There were stories of the glue not holding in really cold temps. This does not seem to be a problem with the improved methods. I would have to agree with WV that both are adequate. With the increased use of cuben tarps we will find out what works best after some age and use in a variety of enviroments.

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    after many tough hours of consideration i have decided to go with zpacks. it really was a tough decision and there was no real clear cut winner...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wags View Post
    after many tough hours of consideration i have decided to go with zpacks. it really was a tough decision and there was no real clear cut winner...
    Still, something had to tip the scale. What do you think it was?
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    truth be told, as much as stormcrow's UQs are the bomb. Joe has been putting up cuben tarps for many years. That experience, plus the fact that his tarp was $30 cheaper was probably what pushed me in his direction...

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    SC and Jen were both tremendous in helping me make my decision here. I almost felt bad not buying from them. In fact, SC took about 45 minutes out of his work schedule to talk with me about his end of things, and Jen emailed me a few times making sure I had all the info I needed.

    The best thing about their customer service was that not one single time did I feel pressured to buy from them...

    Just wanted to let others know who may be making a decision.

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