I gotta find me some of this. :-)
From Scott's link in previous post:
I usually spray my hiking clothes 2 or 3 times per bug season. I do not always spray my hammock, as I sleep in my hiking clothes anyway plus usually have some 15-20% Picaridin on exposed skin, so the bugs don't seem to come near me anyway. But when car camping or in the backyard, I often am not wearing the treated clothing, then the treated hammock comes in quite handy.By storing the treated clothing in black plastic bags between uses the protection can be extended considerably.
For that matter, Permethrin sprayed in my backyard comes in very handy.
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i spray my gerar every season with permethrin, i get it from my army surplus store, then i stuff everything in a trashbag for a few hours to let it really absorb into the fabric,
as for deet , i have seen it burn a hole in nylon, but that was sprayed directly on it, i imagine after a while it would affect the hammock if you dowse yourself in it,
i use lemon eucalyptus spray from "repel" , not as affective as 100% deet but it does'nt eat nylon either
Permithrin is neurotoxic to most bugs. It coats fabrics well with little if any effect structurally and remains on the fabrics for 6-10 wash cycles. Enzymes in human skin render Permithrin intert in pretty short time when it is applied directly to our body surface, so its ussually not too effective at keeping them away. Keep the stuff away from cats though. It does not like them at all!
I've found that bugs will still land on me with since I started using permithrin, but aren't confortable staying there a while to make a real meal out of me. Trips are a lot more pleasant not worrying about getting deet on equipment, not tasting deet every time someone pulls out a can and not having to reapply bug sprays 10 times day and night.
Take it for what you think it's worth. Just a few thoughts from the swamps and marshes of south Louisiana...
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Permethrin as an insecticide is VERY helpful at keep ticks off during their late spring and early summer active season. Lyme Disease is no joke and can debilitate or even kill you, and it's tough to get a good diagnosis early in its progress. Prevention for me = permethrin on clothing...and hammock too if you're a bit paranoid.
The icing on the cake is that mosquitoes and gnats find me far less interesting when wearing Permethrin treated clothing. Though it's not a repellent, they tend not to bother me or bite me when I'm wearing treated clothes.
Exposed skin, however, may still need DEET or other insect repellent (think shorts or short sleeves). I like the 3M product (Ultrathon), also sold by AMWAY under a different product name. It's cream based and about 30% deet concentration.
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Good info! Does permethrin work on mosquitos too? What about black flies? Out here in the Cascades, we get swarms of black flies on the trails by mid summer. They are almost worse than the mosquitos.
I like what you guys are explaining, I was just worried that if I soak my WBBBs in it, then lay in it, it will migrate into my bloodstream. I keep hearing about how all the insecticides that we use in our food production system are causing cancers. Your thoughts?
There is always the technique of swatting skeeters away. Burning a citronella coil or candle. Campfires help. Smoking a cigar helps me too...but we are back to cancer and stuff. Camp on a windy ridge or lakeshore....the breeze keeps them at bay a great deal. Increase your garlic intake.
They are out there......get in the hammock quickly and zip.
They also make bug-free hiking clothing...http://www.orvis.com/store/product.a..._feeds-_-83094
Also electronic devices....http://www.amazon.com/Schawbel-Corpo.../dp/B000G9WKE4
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Sounds like I need to get me some.
Try putting listerine in a small spray container. Just a small amount of spray works good.
Last edited by Greenman; 06-19-2011 at 00:36. Reason: better wording.