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(3) Why a continuous loop? A locked brummel on each end would use less amsteel.
Just a couple of thoughts for you!
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Instead of a spike at the bottom or a plate, you could just drill two holes in each of the pieces of wood and put two stakes threw those holes. That way it would provide more stability for the poles.
I'm going to be making this stand this weekend, for an upcoming hang.
Really neat design and I'm going to try it for my system (also getting ready to go on a BSA outing where we are not likely to have trees in our designed site). If I missed this somewhere in the numerous posts, sorry, but wouldn't it create less stress on the guy lines if the two main support poles were at outward angles rather than a 90 degree angle to the ground? I'm not an engineer, but it would seem that by placing the poles at such an angle, there would be more weight being distributed down the poles instead of pulling inward from the poles. Can someone who is more of an expert on this provide their comments? Thanks.
You can't really tell from this angle, but I have it slightly angled backwards so that the head end of the pole is farther from the gap than the foot end. The lines running from the booms to the foot end will keep it from slipping towards the gap. The slight angle insures that it can not slip backwards. I don't get carried away with the angle, as I still want all the pressure on the pole to be vertically into the ground.
My original stand that I made is like that!! I used 2x4s instead of the pipe. This design is a lot more compact than mine, but it's for car (well, truck) camping anyway.
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Anyone considered trying this with some schedule 80 PVC? My initial thought is whether the diameter would have to be so large for stability that the weight would be ridiculous for canoeing??
(I haven't worked with smaller diameter schedule 80, so I really don't know how accurate this assumption is....and when i say "worked with" - my extent of "working with" schedule 80 is in using it to turn a car upright after it has rolled over at an accident scene.....wish I had a video to show so you could see the amount of force being implied on it...)
What a great idea! I am making some of your boom stakes to use with my aluminium canoe poles for canoeing when there are not enough trees to hang conventionally.
Your take on portable treeless hanging will help me out of a dead end thought process with a too complicated to work in real life idea I was struggling with (too many lines and pegs).
Anyway, to the point of this post: what procedure do you adopt when erecting your stand single-handed? Does the continuous anchor lines help or do you always have help?