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    I had to use my amsteel suspension extensions last weekend. I had the whoopie on the knot and found that not only was the toggle (arrow shaft) harder to get out it was also slightly dented.
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    The only difficulties I've had with the marlinspike were either:

    - The Whoopie sling got wedged in the knot and took more pull to get it off, or

    - The knot got a little tight and the toggle took a stronger pull to get out. (Usually when I do something foolish, like use an S-hook as the toggle, cause I think I'm being clever by hooking the hammock directly to the tree straps)

    I've never had a problem with the knot coming undone once the toggle was out, since as far as I know, the toggle's the only thing holding the knot together.

    Any chance you can post pictures or a short video of how you're tying the marlinspike in the first place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EricFromPortland View Post
    I learned the knot from one of Shug's videos where he says something like: "put the line on the knot not the toggle, knot not the toggle." Man that always make me laugh for some reason.....
    Me too. Maybe because it's being done in slooooow mooootioooon.

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    What kind of straps are you using.... cause I got some 1 1/2 in. straps from sclittlefield and they are much more difficult to pull the knot out than the 1 in. straps from harbor freight...
    My memory's not as sharp as it used to be. Also, my memory's not as sharp as it used to be.

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    I have found this too, and I use pieces of the original WBBB strap suspension as tree straps. I have been using trail sticks, and they've also been hard to slide out. I think I may be overtightening the knot against the toggle, though.

    I also popped the whoopie off of it last weekend while I was adjusting my uq. So now, I loop the whoopie over the toggle and knot and tie a slip hitch behind it to keep it nice and snug up against the knot.

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    I use Tree Huggers from the Whoopie Sling site and they are really easy to pull out I think because they are so soft. But last weekend I used my cam straps from my car (which are very stiff and new) that I tie on boats with and they were really difficult to yank out! The material that the straps are made of makes a certainly difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EricFromPortland View Post
    Yea, its not the cheese burgers (trust me, I have had a lot). I can pull out the toggle and the knot pulls out directly and without force. I learned the knot from one of Shug's videos where he says something like: "put the line on the knot not the toggle, knot not the toggle." Man that always make me laugh for some reason.....
    I fell on my backside my first time using a Marlin spike and my whoopies. I'm glad Shut pointed that out! I thought there must have been something I missing.

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    I use 1" seat belt straps that are really stiff and have never had this problem. Not a single hickup with the whoopie to MSH knot. I use arrow shaft toggles and a Ti stake before and the knot comes out the instant i pull the toggle


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