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    Climashield APEX / XP 2.5 UQ question

    I am about to dive into a new project using Climashield APEX and 2.5 in combination. Main reason for both is because I have the XP already.
    Below is what I was thinking. The end with the APEX would be the head end.

    I would like to be able to get down to 30˚F with a bit of supplemental clothing. I have a 30˚F TQ that will be in the mix as well.

    Ok so I need some opinions from the pros. My understanding of warmth to loft and such are limited but from what I have read this setup makes sense to me. Do you guys see any short comings or have any suggestions?
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    I think you'll be fine combining the insulations. I am a bit confused by the diagram though. Are the different layers combined underneath one another, or will you connect them along the edges somehow? If you're going to combine them, from what I remember of their respective temp. ratings, you'll be nice and cozy.

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    Good use of available materials!
    You will want the Apex to reach down to your mid-thigh (if you have enough).
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    PuckerFactor, The two smaller sections, Blue Layer APEX and Green Layer 2 of XP, would lay on top of a large section of XP, the yellow.

    So it would be 7.5 down to about my waist or mid-thigh and then only 5, a combination of two layers of 2.5, below that. Then there would be the yellow that is showing at the sides which would only be 2.5 but would hopefully serve more to keep some heat in or slow its escape versus being a true insulator.

    MAD777, thanks for the pointer. I should have mentioned also that this is to be a 3/4 UQ.

    My main focus is to cut back on bulk, use materials I have, but still be able to take this down to 30ish.

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    The reason I mentioned the length of the thicker portion is to prevent CBS (cold bu++ syndrome). Usually the first piece of anatomy to get cold in a hammock.
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    I believe that combo would do you quite well down to 30 degrees.
    I did something similar with cheapo quilt batting from JoAnne's. It was 1 layer of batting over the whole quilt, with a second, smaller rectangle going caddy-corner where I lay. I threw a space blanket in the mix, and I can sleep comfortably in 15-degree weather.
    I agree with MAD about getting the thicker layer down to your butt though.
    Something else to consider is the differential so you don't squish the layers. Maybe make the outside layer a couple inches wider to account for that.

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    No, I am glad you mentioned the length issue. That is why I posted up, there is a ton more knowledge out there than I possess by far.

    Thank you for the advice!

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    I agree with PuckerFactor about potential squishing of the insulation.

    On my recent quilts, I build-in the expected amount of loft into the outer layer of shell material and add that amount of material to the left and right as well as the front and back. So if I have 1.5" of insulation, I add 3 inches to the width and 3 inches to the length. Seems to work. If you use this method all I can say is "good luck" as you are dealing with three different thicknesses of insulation.

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    To many different pieces to fit together IMO.
    One of the benfits of synthetic insul. is the lack of gaps (i.e., heat loss) With so many pieces stitched together, A) You'll be compressing the insul at the joints. B) Causing lumpy sections where it is joined. C) Any inconsistency in warmth (in my experience) makes the other areas feel cold.
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    Another option would be to create two separate quilts. One with just the 2.5 and then have attachment points that a full length strip of APEX could attach. This would give me a summer and winter quilt.

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