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    Quote Originally Posted by rodwolfy View Post
    On the other hand, my kids were swinging hard and the nylon Slap Straps were rubbing on some wood about 2' ahead of where the sling was attached. It superheated and snapped in short order.
    That is not an issue with amsteel. Nylon is known for not accepting heavy vibration and pulsating activities. The Coast Guard went to nylon towing ropes for a while when they became available and rather quickly abandoned them after the ropes exploded. If I remember correctly several crewmen were killed as a result of nylon rope failure. Amsteel is a whole different critter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hppyfngy View Post
    Yeah, I might just go with 1/8 anyway just for maximum safety...
    Quote Originally Posted by Tendertoe View Post
    Agreed. If they aren't hauling it on their back somewhere, no reason to not go with 1/8 for safety sake.
    Quote Originally Posted by hppyfngy View Post
    I'm also inclined to go with 1/8 even though it seems unlikely to be necessary.
    Quote Originally Posted by gmcttr View Post
    I spent too many years as a safety officer...I would go with 1/8" just to add in more margin for error.
    1/8th inch??? Don't you all mean 1/4th? 8/64ths rather than 4/64ths?

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    1/8 = 8/64...

    7/64 is 8 strand rated at 1600# and 1/8 is 12 strand rated at 2500#
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rain Man View Post
    1/8th inch??? Don't you all mean 1/4th? 8/64ths rather than 4/64ths?

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    Ummm...not sure what you're thinking here (unless something is going whoosh over my head).

    8/64" = 1/8" and starts off with 900 lbs additional breaking strength over 7/64" Amsteel Blue.

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    I am 300 lbs and use 7/64". I bought this just because that's what I saw others using and it was rated to hold me just fine. I have had maybe 10-15 nights in the hammock with this setup and have had no issues. However, I can't say I would not go with the 1/8" if I did it again, it would not add that much weight to my pack.
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    Has the OP thought of going with a webbing setup?

    Less fiddle factor than whoopies (no worries of whoopie slipping off the toggle, no knots to learn, etc.).

    If your relatives are just recreationally using a hammock, this may be the better way to go.

    Just another option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmcttr View Post
    Ummm...not sure what you're thinking here (unless something is going whoosh over my head).

    8/64" = 1/8"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tendertoe View Post
    Has the OP thought of going with a webbing setup?

    Less fiddle factor than whoopies (no worries of whoopie slipping off the toggle, no knots to learn, etc.).

    If your relatives are just recreationally using a hammock, this may be the better way to go.

    Just another option.
    Yeah I know. I'm torn between the geek factor of the whoopies and the practicality of webbing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tendertoe View Post
    Chart below from Knotty I believe (whomever this chart is from, feel free to chime in as I saw this ages ago and saved it in my documents) -

    I think there are some typos in this. The second sample scenario on the left confused me for a minute. Still really interesting info, though.

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    Cost of rope is proportional to mass which is proportional to load rating. So, the 1/8" Amsteel will cost you 50% more than the 7/64".

    Well, it handles nicer, too, guessing your big bro and nephew don't have hands with slender fingers, either.

    But, what is going to break first? How about some stitching? Or maybe you can be sure the line shears the fabric of the hammock under the dynamic load you are afraid of?

    I'd think about the kind of mis-use that might occur and what you want to happen as a result. If it is two guys and five hundred lb falling on a hammock which was 18 inches off the ground, would your rather have the Amsteel survive and tear one of the necks off the hammock? Isn't it likely that under that load, if the hammock doesn't fail somewhere, that the nylon stretchs 30% and they hit the ground anyway, no worse damage to them than if they were horsing around, fell, and............hit the ground?
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