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    Smile Backyard hanging at 34F (new low for me!)

    Hi All,

    I slept my backyard last Saturday night and was mostly comfortable at 34F. I finally overcame my claustrophobia problem by using my sleeping bag as a quilt and not overdressing.

    (In the past I was dressed in too many layers, and zipped up in my bag. Usually woke up with a start, feeling like I couldn't escape! I don't know how you guys and gals sleep in hammock socks, and mummy bags, and etc. GAH!!! )

    Setup:
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    HH Explorer deluxe
    KAQ underquilt
    Neo 9x9 tarp
    Eddie Bauer 40F sleeping Bag (as quilt)
    Small square pillow from Home Depot

    Wearing:
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    Sport Hill running pants,
    short sleeve cotton shirt,
    Fleece vest,
    Toque (stocking hat).

    I finally figured out how to deploy the KAQ correctly and have it stay in position (half hitch once you set it right), but I need a new bag. I had some cold spots where the bag didn't quite cover here and there, and the bag just wasn't warm enough by itself for the most part (no foot box, for example).

    After Christmas, I'm looking to buy the FanaticFringe 30F quilt , I guess the one with Polarguard Delta, since the Ray-Way folks are on walkabout.

    Still can't pony up the bucks for a JRB quilt (or talk my wife into spending that much for a camping quilt, period) <sigh>.

    Anyone have any experience with the FF quilt, or know of any other lower cost quilts?

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    Wink Quilts

    Ed Speer has some down quilts on sale.

    Speer Top Blankets
    45F rating, 750 fill down, 1.5" loft, 14.4 oz weight, forest green/silver, $109
    45F rating, 750 fill down, 1.5" loft, 14.5 oz weight, forest green/silver, $109
    45F rating, 750 fill down, 1.5" loft, 15.5 oz weight, golden orange, $109

    Details at: http://www.speerhammocks.com/Products/Sale.htm

    At 6' 2" I found that sleeping on the ground I needed my FF Quilt to be 80" but sleeping in a hammock the 72" fits well.

    Steve

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    Senior Member NCPatrick's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by millergear View Post
    Ed Speer has some down quilts on sale.

    Speer Top Blankets
    45F rating, 750 fill down, 1.5" loft, 14.4 oz weight, forest green/silver, $109
    45F rating, 750 fill down, 1.5" loft, 14.5 oz weight, forest green/silver, $109
    45F rating, 750 fill down, 1.5" loft, 15.5 oz weight, golden orange, $109

    Details at: http://www.speerhammocks.com/Products/Sale.htm

    At 6' 2" I found that sleeping on the ground I needed my FF Quilt to be 80" but sleeping in a hammock the 72" fits well.

    Steve
    Thanks Steve!

    I got an email from Fanatic Fringe explaining the dimensions of the quilt, they said the "standard Quilt is 74/75 inches long, 48" wide, and taper down to a 20" wide fully insulated footbox". They don't charge extra for length unless you go over 80 inches.

    Thanks for the Speer link. I was looking for something warmer than 45F rating. (Somewhere closer to 30 or under). Not sure I could stomach sleeping in a "Frog Sac". Sounds a little gross, although I'm sure folks just love them, heheh.

    How warm have you been able to sleep in your FF Quilt?
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    "How warm have you been able to sleep in your FF Quilt?"

    So far I've only used Quilts down to 50. On the ground I always got a bit of a chill as I'm a side sleeper and using a BA 2 1/2" thick mat I'd always get a draft. In my hammocks that hasn't been a problem. I'll be using 2 quilts, top and bottom, with my Pea Pod as soon as Santa drops them off! With a total loft of 12" I hope to be toasty down to single digits.

    Cheers,

    Steve

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    Cool bags

    why cant you just use a -25 sleeping bag in a hammock and not the quilts u speak of newbie please over look going to look at the hammocks to day

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    A sleeping bag's insulation will get crushed under your weight and your butt will freeze!

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    millergear`s right. you compress the insulation on the bottom, taking most (nearly all) of it`s insulation value away.
    using a really thick bag would leave you w/ a little better insulation on bottom because there was so much to begin with. but it still wouldn`t be enough.
    and with the heavy weight bag & what insulation value was left on bottom as you lay in it, you would end up with to much insulation on top & not enough on bottom.
    chilled below, while sweating everywhere else.
    don`t leave the CREATOR out of the creation!

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    And (I forgot to mention) the sides of the hammock will also compress the bags insulation.

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    I slept in a -30F bag at 35F and froze because the insulation was crushed. Read the intro here if you're still confused.
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    Thanks Jeff, I was going to link to your site for details -- I'm glad you beat me to it.

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