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    Quote Originally Posted by ChillinOut View Post
    Okay - we could all make hammocks at home and never buy any hammock gear at all...but where would we be then? No product development, no innovation, nothing new - just everyone hanging around in a bedsheet suspended by some washing line. Sounds rather dull & drab to me.

    I once had a drive in a Rolls Royce & the salesman said to me "it's only ten times more expensive than an average family car". ONLY TEN TIMES MORE EXPENSIVE!!!! Yes - but it's had ten times the R&D, ten times the quality, probably takes ten times longer to build too - and look at what came out of it, a brand held high WORLDWIDE for 100 years or so as the byword for the highest quality achievable.

    I see nothing wrong in over-engineering anything, that's how things develop & improve and don't we all want real high quality gear in the final analysis? Price is surely secondary to other things like functionality, quality even fashionability?

    If you want cheap stuff then DIY it and that's fine, I think most of us have probably done this at some point during our personal hammock journey. However, did we still feel satisfied with our perfectly servicable & cheap bedsheet hammock when the HH or WBBB came along - all sexy & lightweight & interesting?? Probably not.

    Hammocks have been around for centuries so nothing new there - or is there?? I think there is. Hammocks have come out of the dark ages & have become SEXY & INTERESTING to a whole new generation who have run excitedly into the wilderness with a renewed, refreshed & revitalised enthusiasm for camping in whole new areas that were previously thought of as uncampable.

    The hammock market may be relatively small at the moment, but I reckon it's gonna explode real soon. The constant drive for lighter smaller gear has driven us all inevitably to hammocks. I mean, would any of us really want to carry the gear our ancestors carried 100 years ago & use it today? Would any of us fancy a go at Everest with tweed jackets and wool socks as our only protection from the elements. Probably not.

    Now imagine going back to those days in a time machine with a goretex jacket & all the technical stuff we use today and showing those old timers what we use. Then imagine telling them what it cost. They'd probably die laughing & probably paid a lot less for their house back then than most of us did for sexy shiny technical gear today.

    Good on Kammock for going for it. I see a lot of posts from big guys & girls who question what weight this or that hammock will support & if it's safe for them. Well maybe Kammock helps solve this issue for some folks & opens up more & more people to hammocking.

    I think it looks great, the price may be an issue for some but it all depends on what you need, what you want & what you're gonna use it for.

    Any company that looks that deep into where their stuff is gonna be made, who is gonna make it & sets out to trade fairly & responsibly from the get-go has to be applauded & supported as much as possible. Good for them & let's hope more companies follow that ethos.

    I aim to get one real soon for just chilling for an afternoon with my GF / friends / family, but since I've just spent $309 on a Cuben Fibre Tarp, $264 on a Winter Incubator & more on added on bits & pieces - I need a spell to replenish the funds.

    $309 on a tarp - now that's a bigger deal on price as I could achieve the same thing with a polythene sheet - right?? Keeps the rain off & I could still see through it AND it's easy & cheap to replace. But CF is lighter & packs smaller...right??

    $264 on a UQ - I coulda just hacked up an old sleeping bag right?? Would still have kept CBS away & it's cheaper to replace once again. But an UQ fits better & is engineered with diff baffles etc...right?

    I'm not a rich man by any means, I'm a single Dad who works hard 6 days a week & I have to save for everything. Price is an issue to me for most things but hammock gear is my only indulgence, and it's expensive...but hey, I'm worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OfftheGround View Post
    Stay tuned on the HF promo - we want to do something special to get you guys to gear test/review at a more favorable price. We will keep you posted!

    Much Love!

    Greg
    That's great, sort of what we were hoping for early on! I myself was not interested in the swag, only the hammock. For the price on kickstarter though, it's fair for what you get IMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by OfftheGround View Post
    Hey Shug! I'm a new contributor to the HF, but I've been keeping up with you for a while! Sorry to get you thinking... man strike #1 for KAMMOK! I would love to send you our Kammok ROO just for fun. What you decide to do with it is totally up to you. Hit me up on a PM if you are interested!
    Shug would certainly keep it fun. I would love to see a video with Shug in a Kammock as well as a video from Grizz.

    Thanks again Greg for being so active today!
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    hope to see that HF discount and looks like everything is going good for yall.
    Dale Gribble: I'm thinking, "new hammock." For me, laying and swaying in a hammock is like a steady morphine drip without the risk of renal failure.

    Randy : yea but just remember yer roots and where ya come from....you got Hennessy in yer blood son......

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    About the fabric

    Ok so everyone has had there say on this looooooooooooooooong thread. From price to .... What ever. What got my attention and got me interested in this product was when I watched the video. I heard Eric describe the lunawave fabric. Its breathable but will keep warmth in on cool nights? Just out of curiosity would there be a temp rating on that?

    Also will this new fabric be available to the public soon?

    Ooh and congratulations on your $208k kickstart
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    Now my head hurts from all the reading anf thinking, but a big Howdy to Greg from California. I am looking forward to your HF promotion and good luck to you and your company.
    Happy Trails to one and all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mountain_man_mike View Post
    Now my head hurts from all the reading anf thinking, but a big Howdy to Greg from California. I am looking forward to your HF promotion and good luck to you and your company.
    Thanks Mike! Our promotion is up on HF under "Other Vendors"..if you havne't already checked it out.

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