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    Quote Originally Posted by OutandBack View Post
    Hi RW,
    I think you'll find if you drop the sag on the SB (like a wbbb or traveler) to incorporate a RL it won't lay
    as flat and if you hang the SB for the most comfortable/ flat lay and then attach a RL it
    will be very low and always in the way. YMMV

    The ridgeline doesn't need to be attached at the end of the hammock. Assuming you started with and keep a 30 degree slope, attach the ridgeline 1 foot out from each end and you will have effectively raised the the ridgeline for a given hang angle around that value by exactly 1 foot.

    If your target slope is flatter, look up 2 x sine( angle) to estimate how much you will raise the the ridgeline for each inch you extend the attachment point.

    Every hammock has a virtual ridgeline. Some are so virtual you don't see it or feel it at all. When Warbonnetguy says that for his WBBB the ridgeline is to have a particular tension, he is assuming a specific prior hang angle so the ridgeline causes the slightest pinching of the line running from the tree through the attachment point of the ridgeline on down to the bottom of the hammock.

    Smilies all implied.

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    all secure in sector 7 Shug's Avatar
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    I have a fondness for my ridgeline. Hanging stuff, consistent sag, a place to put my hand and balance myself when I change clothes, hang my headlamp and knife at night.
    Shug
    Whooooo Buddy)))) All Secure in Sector Seven

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    Great video Rip. Thanks for sharing.
    "One of the best things you can do in this world is take a nap in the woods." ~ Jayber Crow by Wendell Berry

    "While it may be a lot of work, the view is best from the summit." ~ an anonymous staff member of Philmont Scout Ranch

    Enjoy the day
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shug View Post
    I have a fondness for my ridgeline. Hanging stuff, consistent sag, a place to put my hand and balance myself when I change clothes, hang my headlamp and knife at night.
    Shug
    i'm agreegious on this point.

    the non-structural ridge does a decent job of providing-- it is a "high reach" for these Finnish arms though
    "Jeff-Becking"

    DOWNTOWN BROWN!!!!

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    Great review Rip. The Switchback looks like a great hammock.
    But I will stick with my WB Traveler because of its simplicity.

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    Does the convertible mod make the bugnet completely detachable? That could shave several ounces in colder weather.

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    I asked that question to ZQ. She said no, so I went with a netless 1.9 SL SB when Dale put the hammocks on sale. If I'm going netless, I want to go ALL THE WAY!!! No offense Rip.
    "One of the best things you can do in this world is take a nap in the woods." ~ Jayber Crow by Wendell Berry

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    Quote Originally Posted by ^shane^ View Post
    I asked that question to ZQ. She said no, so I went with a netless 1.9 SL SB when Dale put the hammocks on sale. If I'm going netless, I want to go ALL THE WAY!!! No offense Rip.
    If one has the bucks to own two SB's to cover all seasons that is the way to go.
    My SB (rigged) weighs 1 3/4# I don't have an issue with that weight and it's nice to know the net is always there just in case.

    35 bucks is awful cheap to have both in one hammock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlazeAway View Post
    Great review Rip. The Switchback looks like a great hammock.
    But I will stick with my WB Traveler because of its simplicity.
    Hi BlazeAway,
    I love my traveler to, as a stand alone hammock it's extremely comfortable.

    Once i add an UQ it becomes an unruly monster dumping everything out on the ground that I try to put in it.

    One of the big selling points of the SB is even when you lay asym you don't have a hug wall of fabric blocking your view like most gathered end hammocks have.
    The 2QZQ RW convertible mod just improves your view even more by tucking the netting away when not required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OutandBack View Post
    Hi BlazeAway,
    I love my traveler to, as a stand alone hammock it's extremely comfortable.

    Once i add an UQ it becomes an unruly monster dumping everything out on the ground that I try to put in it.
    Hi OutandBack.
    I too know the unruly monster the Traveler can become, but that is mostly if I use it with the WB Yeti. Applying the 2QZQ windbreak tends to keep things a bit more together.
    With HG Incubator or the PolarPod the Traveler behaves just fine for me.

    My problem is that I do not like pullouts on a hammock. The same goes for a tarp. For ease of setup a diamond shaped tarp is to be preferred.

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