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    The below is probably the best designed cuben tie out I ever saw. Lawson used it some on his tarps at one time I believe. Not the lightest tie out, but probably the strongest. Here is his description of it:

    "It's two layers of CT5K.18 1.5oz Black Cuben fiber laminated together with a piece of 5/8" grosgrain laminated in between.. The grosgrain webbing is then box stitched to help with lap sheer and peel strength.. It is then laminated to the CT2K.08 .75oz Green Cuben tarp and the tarp edges lap over the laminated section by 1/2" to further help with strength. No holes in the tarp body."

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    First Cuben Tarp by Cedar Tree

    I finally found time to try cuben tarp making. Mine is CT2K.08, the .7 or so oz/yd2. I used the tie out method shown above by Violent Green. It is pentagon shaped with a 10'8 ridge, 8'6 along the bottom sides and 8'6 wide.
    It is almost new sew. I did sew the tie outs like above but I glued them on. The middle seam and perimeter hem are glue taped. I didn't do cat cut sides or ridge but it seems to set up pretty tight. Weighs more than I hoped at 9.2 oz.
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    An absolutely wonderful thread and video! Thanks Sgt. Rock.

    Here are two questions I had that I haven't found.

    Q1. Couldn't you just sandwich two or three layers of the Cuben (one turned at a 45 degree angle and the other at a 90 degree angle for strength), then cut them into strips and primer and clue them to the sandwiched reinforced corners? This way you'd have a strong tie out, but also have the tie out material be no sew and UL? This would replace the grosgain or paracord.

    Q2. I don't seem to see the Cuben being used in a diamond/asym shape at least often. Is this because of a lack of strength on the diagnal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trout View Post
    An absolutely wonderful thread and video! Thanks Sgt. Rock.

    Here are two questions I had that I haven't found.

    Q1. Couldn't you just sandwich two or three layers of the Cuben (one turned at a 45 degree angle and the other at a 90 degree angle for strength), then cut them into strips and primer and clue them to the sandwiched reinforced corners? This way you'd have a strong tie out, but also have the tie out material be no sew and UL? This would replace the grosgain or paracord.
    It could work

    Q2. I don't seem to see the Cuben being used in a diamond/asym shape at least often. Is this because of a lack of strength on the diagnal?
    Probably because it isn't very cost effective to make a diamond. If you went one piece at 54" x 108" it would make a very small tarp, smaller than the smallest Hennessy. To get it big enough you would probably want to make one with a ridge line down it. That would mean cutting two separate diamond halves and combining them in the center. That means you would probably start with about 5 yard in length of material and end up with a tarp that would be about ~70"x106" and have a ridge length ~134" (~5.73 Sq yards coverage), but have ends you have to cut off that equal about 1.8 square yards that are not used in the tarp. True some of that will be used to re-enforce corners and maybe make a stuff sack, but that is still a good bit of material left over at $26 a linear yard. In this build it would cost about $22.68 per square yard of tarp.

    To get the most square yards for your money, most people will cut the tarp at right angles so they get the most square yards of tarp for their money. If you go 7 yards to make a tarp that is ~120" long and ~105" wide after you leave enough remainder for a stuff sack and reinforcements. This would give you ~9.72 square yards of coverage, and would equal ~$18.72 per square yard of tarp.
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    Thanks for the response Sgt. Rock.

    So, the Asym/diamond isn't done due to cost. With all the UL backpackers, I'm amazed we haven't heard of anyone trying the cuben tie out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trout View Post
    Thanks for the response Sgt. Rock.

    So, the Asym/diamond isn't done due to cost. With all the UL backpackers, I'm amazed we haven't heard of anyone trying the cuben tie out.
    It would probably work best with some heavier CF as a base for the pull outs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cedar Tree View Post
    I finally found time to try cuben tarp making. Mine is CT2K.08, the .7 or so oz/yd2. I used the tie out method shown above by Violent Green. It is pentagon shaped with a 10'8 ridge, 8'6 along the bottom sides and 8'6 wide.
    It is almost new sew. I did sew the tie outs like above but I glued them on. The middle seam and perimeter hem are glue taped. I didn't do cat cut sides or ridge but it seems to set up pretty tight. Weighs more than I hoped at 9.2 oz.
    That's a nice tarp Cedar Tree. Bonding is heavy compared to sewing, but also stronger so don't be too disappointed over the weight. With the .74 oz cuben and those tie outs you have a very strong tarp there. Not to mention still much lighter than if it was silnylon.

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    9.2 ounces is still good in my book.
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