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    Apples to apples-Comparing UQ

    When you all, and UQ makers, are posting your temperatures of your UQ, what is the rough standard TQ used, I am comparing UQs to purchase. I am considering something like the Hudson River or Phoenix 3S or maybe even the Mt Washington Convertible. I am usually a cold-sleeper, and dont like to sleep in much more than under clothes, maybe long johns if I must, so I am leaning towards a full length, but the Phoenix looks yummy

    I have spent three weeks straight in my WBBB 1.1. I am not a back sleeper, so it took a while to get used to sleeping in the hammock. Still not there yet though. I am a poor sleeper anyhow, usually 4-5 hours and never straight through even before hammocking. But I am enjoying the hang and think I am ready to purchase an UQ as the fall season is closing in. I just may have to bring this thing indoors for winter use.

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    Here's an online shared document that might help you with your comparisons...


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    Here's a spreadsheet some HFers have put together comparing the various attributes of different underquilts: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...0bFBqSEE&hl=en

    It's not complete by any means, but it's a start. I need to add the stats for the AHE Flamethrower that I just bought from another HFer (my first "professionally made" UQ!)

    Good luck!

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    Thanks guys, similar to an older one I came across yesterday posted here, but many more UQ on these, must be all UQ made.

    But what is used as a benchmark for a top quilt?

    I am using an partially open sleeping bag as a TQ for now.

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    You're welcome. Speaking of which, is this spreadsheet closed? It's open to the public on the web, but "view only". I can't add to it like I used to. Are we not updating this anymore? I can't recall who set this up... .
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    It does look like it's view only now. I believe Mrprez is the owner, maybe you could PM him to see if he'd change access for you to edit it...?


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    Quote Originally Posted by PATripper View Post
    Thanks guys, similar to an older one I came across yesterday posted here, but many more UQ on these, must be all UQ made.

    But what is used as a benchmark for a top quilt?

    I am using an partially open sleeping bag as a TQ for now.
    Thanks, NCPatrick. Will do. Anyway, let's get back to PATripper's post about underquilts and top quilts... . Didn't mean to highjack!
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    That's fine Pipsissewa, things need to be ironed out. Another question, why do some of you use a full length in the shoulder months and a 2/3 in the winter (Shug)? Not counting the insulating qualities, just why shorter? Mostly weight factor?

    Thanks all

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    Quote Originally Posted by PATripper View Post
    Thanks guys, similar to an older one I came across yesterday posted here, but many more UQ on these, must be all UQ made.

    But what is used as a benchmark for a top quilt?
    There isn't a standard TQ reference nor is there a standard "sleeping clothing layers".

    When I had to make this same decision, I looked at a few items:

    - vendor reputation of this site as a "first cut"; that wasn't very helpful since every vendor here was a loyal following

    - then it came down to cost, loft [thickness], construction, down fill rating, weight

    - I ignored the vendor temp ratings since there is no standardization, each vendor has there own idea of how to determine a rating and, as far as I know, none of them are professional tested to the EN Euro standard.

    - instead I looked at how much loft I needed at certain temps, based on my experience with sleeping bags

    i.e. based on the layers I wear to bed, I need xx inches at xx deg F

    - I eliminated differental cuts because I wanted to be able to use the quilt as a TQ or a UQ

    Quote Originally Posted by PATripper View Post
    I am using an partially open sleeping bag as a TQ for now.
    That is a great solution for a TQ.

    I wouldn't buy a TQ unless the sleeping bag was a big weight penalty AND I had money burning a hole in my pocket.

    I use my sleeping bag in my hammock in the winter.
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