View Poll Results: So, which UQ will McRat be using for the next year?

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  • Incubator - the warmth is worth the weight and will extend the hammock camping season

    27 47.37%
  • Phoenix - lighter, you'll eventually need a winter UQ anyways for New England winters

    29 50.88%
  • Other - please post comment in thread.

    1 1.75%
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    Ready to pull trigger (One UQ to rule them all thread #2)

    Having taken the recommended nights sleep on the matter and the advice here, I am torn between the 20 Incubator vs. the 20 Phoenix.

    I'm putting up a poll and am going to go with your advice. I figure I'll likely be happy with any choice, and if not - someone will get a discount when I put it in the For Sale forum.

    I have previously never owned any shelter that had such an enthusiatic fan base of knowledgeable gear addicts. You're my kind of people. Thanks for all your help and advice.

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    Go partial length!
    Go Phoenix!
    Trust nobody!

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    Both are great quilts and will be just as warm under the covered areas of ur body it really just depends on weather or not u want to use a pad under ur feet or not. So my vote is which ever one fits ur style of camping better. And if u still can't decide just get both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannibal View Post
    Go partial length!
    Go Phoenix!
    +1. Phoenix rules!

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    Other vote here - the YETI!!!!!!!

    Sorry, I'm just a big fan of Warbonnet's quilts. They are sweeeeet.

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    Some other thoughts are, What is/are your intended uses? Car camping vs Backpacking? Is weight and space (cubic inch) a variable?
    Formerly known as "Cranky Bear"....

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    Here's another question... Do you assume the Incubator will get you down to winter temps? Both the Incubator and the Phoenix are rated to 20*F. Just because it is a full length quilt doesn't mean it will dip down to single digits.

    I'm particular with partial UQs because there's little to no wasted material to keep what's important warm.. Your core. Legs can easily be kept comfy with a cut down pad.

    But that's my 2 yen.
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    I just pulled the.trigger on the 3/4 Phoenix & will cover legs/feet with either a ccf or a short 3/4 inch thick Thermarest. The pads will do double duty, sit on in front of campfire as well as insulate my feet. My two.cents worth

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    you loose heat from your head and neck, chest, and groin area. Phoenix covers these spots very well. A simple pad and TQ with foot box takes care of my lower legs and feet just fine.

    Phoenix is a nice quilt for backpacking, car camping, back yard or what ever use you need.

    Incubator is a nice quilt for back yard or car camping, not so much for backpacking due to size and weight.

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    Answers to questions -

    LRR - I usually have an a**mat with me, so it shouldn't be a problem putting it in the footbox

    taylo166 - I'm big, broad-shouldered, long torso, and a 'dynamic sleeper', the Yeti dimensions (which may work great for a hammock for all I know) send a chill up my spine. If a 3/4 and Full-length Yeti were available options, they would probably be the two voting choices above. 'One size fits most' has played some cruel tricks on me in the past.

    Cranky Bear - I do both, I would say I camp within access to my car about 75% of the time. I'm hoping to increase my backpacking trips over the next couple of years.

    Raul Perez - While not expecting it to bear the brunt of winter, I'd like a rig that could be tolerable in a pinch down to about 10F with additional layers worn. I'm just guessing that the full length would be somewhat more forgiving in that regard, and possibly warmer at the feet. Really not expecting to go hanging below freezing temps until I get a bit more experience with the hammock. If all is well then, I may sell off some tenting gear to make room for a nice decent winter UQ; but for now I think I can wing only one more hammock-related purchase before my wife's cheerful disposition to my hobby sours.

    Last year, I lugged a generator, screen and projector 3/4 of a mile into the woods to have a winter screening of Bobcat Goldthwait's directorial masterpiece, "Shakes the Clown" in the White Mountain National Forest.

    Consider that this is what I do for amusement, how little weight deters me from comforts... and the horrors that poor Mrs. McRat already must endure on a daily basis without worrying about a half dozen new underquilts showing up.

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