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    Senior Member Str1der's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cogbill View Post
    Thanks guys for all your help. My intention is to jury rig a sleeping bag as an under quilt and I was gonna pick up an 8x10 blue tarp from Walmart to use as a fly. That should work right? As I mentioned earlier, I've had trouble sleeping in my doublenest because I felt a lot of pressure on my head and feet trying to sleep diagonally. And trying to sleep parallel to the ridgeline won't cut it for me either. From what I've written, would you say my setup was too tight or had too much sag? It won't be until Monday before I can see any of the videos suggested. But I look forward to learning all I can.

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    Travis.
    Hmmmm. Again, I have no experience with the ENO double, so maybe one of those guys will chime in. If I had to guess, I would suspect that more sag would help to relieve that tension, but I can't say it would eliminate it. I know I did sleep comfortable in my Single Nest in a complete banana position before, but YMMV.

    I would be hesitant to rig up a sleeping bag uq. It can be done, but it's trickier than you might think, and the margin for error can be pretty small if the temperatures are low. At the very least, I would do a test hang in your backyard with your intended set up and put it to the test. That way, you can bail out if it's 3am and that "insignificant" gap underneath you is causing some serious CBS! I know plenty of people prefer the ENO double as their main hammock, so I really think an uq would be a smarter purchase.

    The WM blue tarp will work just fine if you don't mind the added space and weight in your pack. Make sure to set that up too to make sure you have al the lines and hardware you need and that you can get a good pitch. I might even upgrade this before the hammock too because you don't really realize how big and heavy those WM tarps are until you buy a "big" tarp like my Warbonnet BMJ and are certain the box it came in is empty since there's NO WAY a tarp that big could fit in a box that small and light!

    Oh, last thing. Are you using the ENO SlapStraps for your suspension? Those things will sag on you overnight and make fine tuning your sag impossible.

    I don't want to talk you out of the BB. It's a fantastic hammock. But right now, the hammock's not your weak link. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions.
    "The Road goes ever on and on,
    Down from the door where it began.
    Now far ahead the Road has gone,
    And I must follow, if I can.
    Pursuing it with eager feet
    Until it joins some larger way
    Where many paths and errands meet.
    And whither then? I cannot say."
    ~Bilbo Baggins - LotR

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    I'll do that thank you. And no, unfortunately I don't have the slap straps. I'm using spme extra webbing that I had lying around (I love rock climbing). It works and matches my hammock nicely. I just tie them around a tree and use a carabiner to attach the hammock.

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    i'm saving for the clark.....i think.... ;D

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    Welcome from Florida!

    Shug's videos are not only extremely informative, they are down right funny!
    Mike
    "Life is a Project!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cogbill View Post
    All I would need to buy is the rainfly.
    Oh, some famous last words right there!

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    hey there;
    I had so many questions at first (and still working things out)...
    Recently I purchased a WBBB 1.1 DL hammock and Superfly tent. I'm still waiting on it btw. But my purchase decision took a lot of study and research. There are a lot of options out there. I have a Byer "Easy Traveler" hammock and an inexpensive home depot 8 x 10 blue tarp. I've been using it for the past two months and have learned so much from this inexpensive set up that the lessons were invaluable in helping me decide. So if you already have the fortune of having a hammock, use it, learn it and it will allow you to make a good decision according to your personal needs.
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    I got to watch Shug's first 2 videos and wow, they are so easy to watch and are so helpful. I do know that for me, I'd like to add a structural ridgeline so I can have a fixed sag and won't have to mess with it after that. I hate sleeping like a banana. Haha

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